Hows my winter bulk look?
25
5'10
185
11% bf
5 cycles prior
So I just finished PCT and am pretty dissapointed with my losses. Coming off my cycle I was 195 10% bf and could lift a house. Due to some SERIOUS estrogen sides(had total estro at 9000) I lost a lot of motivation to gym and eat properly and lost about 10 lbs during PCT. Sucks ass. So to make myself feel better I'm planning my next. Don't worry, I am still going to wait another few months all pending my blood test results. Cycle is going to look like this.
BULKER
Dbol-30mg 1-4
Test C-750mg 1-12
Deca-600mg 1-10
Proviron-25mg 1-12
Caber .25 2x 4-12
Exem 6.25 eod or Anastroz .5 eod 4-12
And I was thinking about including
3iu GH 1 month prior to cycle and up to 5iu while on cycle.
Once I go above 3iu would use 50 mcg of T4 daily.
A lot of compounds, I know. I have experience using all of these with the exception of the GH. Never used it. I've got a couple Riptropin kits sitting in the fridge ready to go though and feel like including GH rather than more AAS at higher dosage is a better idea.
Not really looking to cut on this one. Looking to hit my 200lb goal and think with the right bulking diet(CLEAN) I can easily do this. How do you guys feel about this cycle? Thanks.
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I'd lower the deca to 400ish if you're firm on the 750mg of test. Otherwise all good from where I'm looking.
Good luck with the cycle.
UFONot set on 750 test. Thats just a nice spot for me. But after these replies gunna drop the deca to 500 and test to 600. Thanks bro
looks good brother. you know i love the proviron addition. your deca is high. id be miserable with that dosing. id do more of a 750/400 or adjust doses to 500-600 test/300-400 Deca. If i run too much deca i get lazy and fucking worthless (the proviron will help that)
also, the proviron will help you in titty department. you might be able to drop your AI doses (.5 adex EOD seems high). id play it by ear if this if your first proviron run as on-cycle support... but you know your body better than i do
HGH it will depend on the quality of your product, but don't feel rushed to jump into high IU's. off cycle i stay around 2 and on-cycle will go up to around 3.3iu/ED. its expensive, and i find more value in a long-run, vs a short high dose run. doesnt matter when you start your gh in relation to your cycle, but make sure its 2 months before pct, run it (at around 2iu) during pct and for a few months after.
look squared away brother. enjoy
UFOYea ive never gone over 600 with deca but have felt great even at a split dose of 600 deca/600 test. But you and hllywood suggest dropping it so I think I will. Never run provi for a WHOLE cycle so Im curious to see how it goes. I dont get estrogen sides, but goddamn does my estrogen go sky high during cycle, thats why I had a little higher AI dosage, but only a blood test while on will tell me for sure. As for the GH its the Rips that have been going around so I'm pretty confident they are good. How long till you see noticable gains/changes in your body from the GH? I'm wondering if I will even be able to tell since I'm going to running it during an AAS cycle? Thanks for the response bro
you got it man. bloods during cycle is the only way to really tell your estro, and i would err on the side of keeping my estro low vs sky-high, but thats me and my "look good year round" mentality.
as far as hgh, its a weird animal man. I've been running hyges for like 6/7 months, and I don't feel ON hgh, but i understand and can see/appreciate what it is doing for me. AAS is much more overwhelming.
if you have quality rips, you will understand the sleep benefit and fat-loss within months. the real benefit here is going to be your gain retention/strength retention while going through pct and subsequently, as a result of your hgh.
i love hgh and it keeps me lean and looking fresh. as i describe to my boys, AAS is for growing, hgh is for staying sexy (all coupled with clean dieting of course
). good luck brother ;)
Looks in tact bro BUT IMO you could do just fine on lower doses (500test/400deca) MORE doesn't always equal BETTER... You're still early in cycle history and not even close to any plateaus so be the turtle : )
If you are looking to "make up" for lost gains it's the wrong approach
I would hold off on the GH, wait til you put some size on and make sure you have ALL research done in that arena
...OH! and you DO know the PCT police are gonna come by and slap you with a ticket ; )
HAHAHAH
Whats PCT? :/
UFOLOL...well PCT is the usual..I like to start with an HCG blast(1000iu ed) for the 5 days leading up to PCT of Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Novla 40/40/20/20.
Totally understand what you mean bout not going into this looking to make up for my lost gains, I think I just worded it wrong. Just making myself feel better at the moment by planning a next cycle.
So maybe drop my AAS dosage to 600 test c and 500 deca?
Figured I'd get some people saying no to the GH. I have talked to a few vets on here including tread who gave me a great protocol to follow, but I'm unsure about running it for 6+ months myself so I'll see how I feel in a cple months. The way guys talk about GH locally though is like a miracle drug. A lot of guys my age have stacked GH and test and have never seen better results and swear by it, and I already have the kits so its dtempting. Thanks for the response bro
Deca is a GREAT compound bro and the cool thing is it can be run effectively even at lower doses (depending on goals) For me personally higher doses means more aggressive sides. 400 is my sweet spot to where I make gains and lube joints without excessive bloat or prolactin build up.
and if you got your blessing from tread thats good enough for me : )
UFONo shit, 400? I guess cause my ill advised 1st cycle was deca 600/test 600 I've always thought that was the norm but I will take your word for it. Gunna drop the deca to 500 and test to 600. That helps a lot since I only have low dosed deca 200 and cyp 200 and dont wana pin more than 3ml. Thank you sir!