posted Mon, 11/11/2013 - 21:35
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I'm planning out a cycle and would like to know what suggestions some of the experienced guys have. I've read some posts so here's the information I think is needed to give an informed opinion.
I'm 6'0" 255lbs, 36, not really sure about BF, but I have used those body scales and I get 26%. My problem is a bit of a belly. Ive been working out on and off for many years. Im looking to burn some fat and get some definition.
Ive decided on Primobolan, Cutstack. For PCT, I have Clomi, Nolva and Aromasin. Also have HCG.
I only want to do 8-12 weeks. What ideas would you guys have. Please remember, I am doing my research and nothing is set in stone. I welcome all suggestions, ideas and advice. Thanks.
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you say your diet is perfect and you exercise your ass off? horseshit. starve yourself for 2 days and see if u lose a pound. drink a gallon and a half of water for 4 days and see if you lose a pound.
Of course my diet isnt perfect. But Ill tell you this. Not seeing much in terms of results after months of hard work is a big let down. This probably is the biggest cycle im on. I say eff it! Then I try all over again.
Can you do that type of extreme diet without losing muscle mass? Can you keep it up for any length of time?
Your body drops its metabolism to compensate, it's a bad spiral.
Drinking more water will shed water weight but it will not get him to where he wants to be.
I know, I was just saying he said he tried everything so what does he have to lose?
Since you say you know from experience, what lesson are you basing your comment on?
If I did what you would say, Id lose weight and i'd also get sick.
I'm just curious as to what experiences you're basing your .02 on. What took you down the path initially.
i started a cycle when i was 30% bf and did not gain shit. i couldnt tell what was muscle or bloat. I started to do actual research and learned what to do and how to do it. I am down to 18% bf and still losing it. Then again I am on trt for life so once i got off my lazy ass and started to actually work to drop I did. The funny part? I was on 100mg a week of test. So thats where my .02 comes from. drooped from 240 pounds to 200 dieting like a bastard and running my weekly replacement shot. Got it now or should I add another couple pennies?
I can take all the advice I can get. I actually know for a fact several people that have tried gears and they all give different opinions. I really want to stay away from anything strong. I work out pretty hard and feel that around 400-600mg of Primo per week will help me a great deal.
This is while I continue my workouts, diet and cardio. I figured id add the cut stack to help burn fat. It seems that at such low doses, it wont do much in terms of anything else.
What did you do to drop it. Can you give me your journey. I really want to feel comfortable going into this. Im seeing how the responses juxtapose against my own thoughts and findings.
What I did was kept a journal of what I was eating, I stayed away from processed foods and upped my protein intake while slightly lowering my carb. I drank 10 glasses of water a day. I used EAS Advantedge Carb control shakes; 1 for breakfast and nothing else so that cut down some carbs and fat. I read up on a post made from one of our Vets and mods here, Viking; about carb control. Everytime I felt I was hungry and could not fight it I ate fruit. I had the same problem as you my friend, I could not lose a fucking pound if my life depended on it. So I changed my thinking. You also have to limit your calorie intake to 1660 a day no more or less although less is better. Don't do more then 3 days of cardio; and on those cardio days do the row machine at a medium pace for 15 minutes as a warmup to your workout so your heart rate is up. Fuck the walking machines unless you want more endurance; you can walk for an hour and only burn like 300 calories. Do those situp machines they have in the gym and go heavy on the weight. I know you can do it man you just have to believe. lol I know I was all over the place in this post but its still early and I appreciate you looking for help.
Recap:
1. Make a journal of foods.
2. Stay away from boxed foods or processed.
3. Eat lean chicken breast no skin and low fat fish like Talapia and cod, Haddock
4. 1660 calories a day
5. Do not skip breakfast but make it very light a bowl of wheaties will help too.
6. Situp machine and row machine 20 minutes each no more
7. Lower your fat intake to less then 55 grams a day This one is the one you NEED to follow
8. Take L-arginine as it helps your body burn fat instead of muscle.
9. Take a multi vitamin because you will be starving yourself of nutrients.
10. take some L-Citrulline as well because it fights muscle wasting while you are on diet.
11. Believe in yourself that you can do it.
12. Come back after a week and let everyone know how you lost 3-5 pounds in one week and pat yourself on the back!!!!
If you follow this you will lose about 10-15 pounds in 3 weeks guaranteed. We are men so we burn fat faster then women when we want to lol.
Some people will tell you to lose quite a bit of that bf you have. The problem with high bf and test use is once the bloating starts it's hard to decipher what is real muscle and what is water retention and bf (ask me how I know lol). My opinion would be to start a diet regimen and stick to it for at least 2 months to curve yourself down a bit. Once you have your diet in check and your exercise regimen then you can introduce a test only cycle.
Cutstacks work great.....if you are already low on bf. Do a test e or c cycle and start low like 250mg a week after you straightened out your diet. More is not always better because the body gets used to it and you get some pretty expensive piss. After that cycle you can jump to a higher dose like 500. These are just my opinions.
AnonWell off the bat lose the primo. Way too expensive and needs to be ran way too long and is best used for contest prep. At ur bf ur not competing I presume. What exactly is ur cycle experience brother? There's some better options for u but just need to know where you're at in you're cycle maturity
I have never done a cycle. First time. After all my research and based on my own health and what Im willing to try, I wanted to stick with Primo primarily. I dont really want to gain any weight, I have a solid frame underneath the layer of fat.......I want something that is going to help me get some lean gains and burn fat.....Not looking to put on any kind of weight. This is why I chose the gears that I chose.
Low aromatization, no or very low water weight gain, low side effects. I dont mind the expense, but I figure the primo on its own is weak. Thats why i figure Id add the cut stack. It has test prop 75, masteron 50 and tren 50.
AnonIf your BF is what u say it is you won't see anything from the primo. If you get any gains it's because of the diet and training. Primo is pretty much a bony building contest prep compound. Why not use Testosterone at a low dose like 400mg? It will help u more than primo will