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Substituting aromasin for arimidex??

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Planning to run my first ever cycle this fall. I have a cycle put together, but just ran across info on aromasin and was wondering what people think of subbing it in place of the arimidex. My planned cycle is:

1-12 test e @ 500mg/ week, split
4-PCT Adex @ .5mg eod

PCT 15 days after last test shot.
Clomid 100 ed/ 100 ed/ 50 ed/ 50 ed
Nolvadex 40 ed/ 40 ed/ 20 ed/ 20 ed

If so looking for links anyone might have for dosing the aromasin.

Big thanks

Pale's picture

Excellent^^

Big Pimp Daddy's picture

I've done fine on both of them. I don't see any difference personally in the way I feel and both do the job of lowering my estrogen properly. Only difference for me of why I choose Adex now is the lower cost due to less frequent dosing needed. I need half an aromasin (12.5) ed to get my estro to the same level as half an Adex (.5) e3d. I end up spending way less money on Adex vs aromasin

smokey8595's picture

I know what the 2 do and how they are different, I was just looking for input on subbing the one for the other. Black Doug do you feel a big diff with the glucosamine? I've taken it by itself and didn't feel shit on some old knee injuries.

BlackDoug's picture

You should hit the reply button when replying to someone bro. Anyways I do feel a difference. I would say it knocks 50% of the sore joints off. I use glucosamine chondroitin with msm. You've got to take it for at least 3 weeks straight before feeling the effects. I also take fish oil. The thing with GC w MSM is that it's not permanent and once you stop taking it it wears off. I start it 2 weeks before my cycle and run it all the way through PCT. If you would put up you're cycle history I may be able to give you some more suggestions.

smokey8595's picture

Thanks, I will give GC a 2nd look. I have no cycle history, it will be my first.

CBBurrr's picture

Can the whole rebound factor of Adex be avoided by just switching to ARO at the end of the cycle?
My joints are much much happier with adex! My knees took a beating while on ARO

MONK's picture

I feel far better on Adex, especially on the joints but the over riding factor has me falling back to aromasin every time purely for piece of mind due to no rebound.

Oh and pharma where possible ;)

Doss's picture

I've switched to adex since being on trt simply because that's what the doc prescribes. I like not having to take it every day, but I do better when I have to take it everyday. I'm more apt to forget to take it when it's twice a week.

MONK's picture

Pharma rules IMO bro, if I had the choice of pharma adex or UGL aromasin I'd most likely run the adex on cycle then if needed a power pct with Nolva clomid and the UGL aromasin (only if required incase of rebound).

Doss's picture

Just depends on the pharma bro. My clinic uses compounding pharmacies. Quality isn't always what you expect. I've gotten bunk hcg from them before.

BlackDoug's picture

I definitely prefer aromasin. It works much better for me. The only issue I've run into is that it dries out your joints so I use glucosamine chondroitin for joint relief

CBBurrr's picture

This also makes it a little tricky to dose Aro right. I backed off my aro when my joints hurt, but my estro was still high. You can't use sore joints as the sign of low estro when using aro

BlackDoug's picture

Yeah when using aro the sore joints could be either or. For me my best tell for high estrogen is when that DAMN commercial about the abused animals comes on and I get all upset lol. Time to bump up the dose lol

CBBurrr's picture

agreed! hate that damn commercial. I always change the channel cause it pisses me off so bad.

vhman's picture

Aromatase Inhibitors come in 2 types. Type 1 and Type 2. First Type 1 AI's bind by a process called hydroxylation; this hydroxylation process produces an unbreakable covalent bond between the inhibitor and the enzyme protein. Now the enzyme is permanently blocked even after all of the inhibitor is removed and can only be resumed by new enzyme synthesis. Type 2 Inhibitors on the other hand function all the same in their ability to reduce the binding process of the enzyme and the receptor. Except once the drug is discontinued or the concentration of the drug is sparse enough it is possible for the enzyme to seperate itself from the Inhibitor and eventually will allow renewed competion between the Inhibitor and the Enzyme for the receptor site. Aromasin is a type 1 AI and once it does what it's purpose is we don't need to continue use. Letro and Adex are Type 2 Ai's and the success of those drugs are continigent on the Doses and protocol of which we use them. Once you stop them you expose yourself to an Estrogen rebound. Now having said all of that there are also many other reason to why Aromasin use is beneficial to a Bodybuilder. One is Arimidex/Anastrozole Decreases IGF-1 18% while Aromasin/Exemestane Increases IGF-1 28%. Another is Aromasin is also known to decrease estrogen between 90-95% while boosting Endogenous Testosterone by about 60%, and also help out your free to bound testosterone ratio by lowering levels of Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG), by about 20% (12)…SHBG is that nasty enzyme that binds to testosterone and renders it useless for building muscle.

This is from a yellow sticky in the PCT forum.
Like anything else, AI preference varies from person to person. Some love Aro and others Adex. Can't hurt to have both on hand and see how you react. Most start at 6.25 mg per day and Aro and go from there.
Also, use the search function above (magnifying glass) and search some of this out. There are many great posts that can help you make your decision.

vhman's picture

Great update. Thanks CD!

smokey8595's picture

Yeah this sticky and some other stuff is what I read that led me to this question. The Aro seems more beneficial, but the joint pain sounds like shit. If I have both on hand can I switch mid cycle considering they do their thing in different ways?

vhman's picture

Sure. Start out with adex and then switch to aromasin at the end. Makes sense and can give you a feel for both. Not uncommon to do in some fashion.

smokey8595's picture

Thanks. I'll keep poking around for more info too

vhman's picture

BOOM!

Doss's picture

Lol

Doss's picture

Pros are that e2 rebound won't take place when you stop taking it.

Cons are that you have to take it more frequently (Ed to EOD)

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Use the blue magnifying glass up top and research them. There are a bunch of posts on it. It's basically up to you which to use. I would get both and try them out and see what you think. You could feel better on one and not the other. Aromasin has a shorter half life. Doses range from 6.25 mg - 25mg , depending on how gyno prone you are. Most run it daily or Eod. Tiral and error to see what works. Start off low and raise if you need to. The same with your adex. I'd start .5 e3d. Then .25 eod if you had to. .5 eod might lower your e2 to much.