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Proposed short cycle

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Hey guys I'm starting to put a new cycle together for the spring. I finished my 1st ever cycle in November and achieved my goal of breaking through a plateau I had been stuck on for a year. I am 40 years old. My goals for the new cycle are to add some lean muscle in the short window I have before my summer travel season begins. I end up doing a lot of workouts in hotels during the summer, so a long cycle, or one that adds a bunch of fluid I have to get rid of is not an option. Right now I am 7 weeks out from my last cycle, and showing 17% bf. I plan on dropping the body fat by about 5% before the next cycle starts in April. I will get blood work a week before I start the cycle. I just had labs done and everything is right in the middle of the spectrum, including test.

Proposed cycle:

1-8 Test P @ 150mg eod
3-8 Winnie (injectable) 40mg ed
1-PCT Adex .5mg eod
PCT starts 3 days after last test shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 50/50/25/25

Thanks for any imput

Puchy's picture

You know... prop should really be injected every day, it has such a short half-life of about 20 hours, so the blood plasma levels with EOD injections are really all over the place...

smokey8595's picture

So would you then drop the dosage to 75mg ed?

crazymofo's picture

You should listen to what rusty has laid out for you. It is a much better cycle especially for your second. I have 12 sites for ED pinning. I truly doubt you have that many yet. Stick to the long ester 2x a week pinning. You will be much happier for it. The provi will help keep bloat down along with that clean well planned diet you have already figured out right? Then add a little oral finisher to harden up and boom you are ready for the beach.

smokey8595's picture

Can I PM you?

crazymofo's picture

Yes sir. FR sent.

Puchy's picture

What is best for him... well... thats another question. I just gave him some info on Prop...

crazymofo's picture

You are right about the Prop which is really just another reason to stay away from the shorts for now.

Puchy's picture

Maybe he can go the "middle route" if he can get some Testosterone Phenylpropionate... Could be shot EOD so less injecting but also less water retention. You know, "the best of both worlds"... Smile

Puchy's picture

Yes, sure... This way you also avoid many sides like high blood pressure and acne, since your blood levels will be constant.

And just for info: Winstrol Depot has actually a few hours longer half-life than Test Prop, about 24 hours, so yes, should definitely be shot every day.

Pale's picture

Try upping your water intake to combat the fluid retention. Bump up Vitamin C as well.

smokey8595's picture

Copy on the water. Pale rider do you have any input on the cycle I put up? Thanks

smokey8595's picture

Hey Rusty what are you thinking with the test e instead of test p?

irongame427's picture

What was your first cycle?

smokey8595's picture

First cycle:
1-12 test e @ 500mg/week split into 2 doses
4-PCT adex @ .5 eod
PCT started 14 days after lat shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 50/50/25/25