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slow gains on second cycle

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whats up dear eroiders!!! So im in my 7th week of second cycle, which consists of 12 weeks Test E, 4 weeks of Test P kicker and 3 weeks of taper with prop again at the end, also doing Aromasin through out the cycle at 12.5mg every other day, that i started on my second week. So now that i am on the seventh week into cycle, I have been having real slow gains. I started my cycle at 200lbs and im at 211lbs at the moment. My question is this normal? Only reason I ask is because my first cycle consisted of Test E and Dbol with no AI just a week of adex after i finished my 4 weeks of dbol where at 7th week i was up almost 20lbs. I know there was water weight involved because of the dbol. However since i am using AI this cycle is it possible im over dosing? shudn't i have some water wight? Not that im complaining cos i dont feel bloated at all and my strength is up the roof and i im getting cut. My diet is to the point. Is there anything to worry about? Please some input would be great.
PS: wanted to mention that i extended my Prop kicker from 4 weeks to 6 weeks cos the first 4 weeks i really didnt feel anything. I have consulted with one of the seniors on here before making the decision the extend two more weeks of prop.
THank you for all the input in advance and hope everyone have a great rest of the weekend.

Catalyst's picture

11lbs in 7 weeks, where's the problem? That's 1.5lbs per week!!!!

Nothing wrong with your AI protocol, you're on the money with it unless you get aches joints, lethargy etc.

bhim's picture

thanks bro! Guess I am just worrying unnecessarily!

P's picture

Could be bloat, water retention, increase in BF% - but if it's lean muscle, then 11lbs gain in 7 weeks is acceptable. Need more info to determine the quality of gain.

P's picture

Diet

Diet is key - you will read this time and time again on the forums and the reason why its mentioned so often is because it is true. AAS increases your recovery rate, but if you actually want to add some lean muscle into the mix you need to eat right. You also need to find what works best for your body - copying an IFBB pro's diet is great, but if your body doesn't respond to certain macro-nutrient ratios and wholefoods (which are high in lactose, example) then you are not optimizing your diet. Finding which foods work for you is takes time through increasing the understanding you have with your body. This will help you identify which foods you should eat at what time. It will also increase your understanding of your body's natural limit, while also understanding how your body reacts to carbs, protein and fat sources in order to reach your daily macro-nutrient intake limits.

Regardless of how much AAS compounds you pump yourself with, without proper nutrition the simple maintenance of the muscle mass you've worked hard over in the gym and resting will deplete. Therefore a subjective understanding of pre training nutrition in addition to post training nutrition should be fully understood to ensure your body is kept in an anabolic environment.

Nurition Basics for Growth and Fat loss and YOUR Body

The lack of nutrition can make your cycle or training almost non-productive. I see a lot of guys talk about cycling and training but not too much on nutrition. Knowing the right foods is the most important thing when cycling on and OFF. I stress OFF because this is where the ball is dropped after the PCT. Knowing your body and the right foods to eat is the key to any successful training regimen with or without steroids. We will start with the “Superfoods” that can make it happen for you.

Pre-Cycle Protocol

bhim's picture

thank you so much P! I appreciate the input.. def have to be patient and follow the right diet and workout plan which i think is on point. thank you