Second Cycle Suggestions
Hello all. I'm looking for suggestions for a second cycle. I finished my first cycle back in mid-June and was very pleased with the physical results, how much I could lift, and with the way I felt. I think the way I felt inside is what I miss the most haha. Anyway, here's some stats for ya:
39 years old
6' 220 lbs
17% bf
1st Cycle- 500 mg test e/week
~3 mg/ day Aromasin (could never get a dosage down that worked for me until the very end when I split 25mg capsules into sevenths) Maybe Aromasin just wasn't for me
500 ius/week HCG
PCT: nolva and clomid
I liked the results I had from that cycle, and if you think that's good enough for a second one, I'm A-Okay with that. Although I really wouldn't mind finishing the cycle at about 240 or even 250 with 15% bf. Being in the Army, I don't want to blow up monster huge and raise suspicions. Also take into consideration that I have to run two or three times per week for a total of about 7 to 10 miles or so, so I don't if there's any types of gear that hamper your cardio endurance. Even right now having been off anything for close to 5 months now, at my size I can easily max out my push ups and sit ups on the PT test, but I can barely pass the run by mere seconds. Finally, is HGH worth it, or is that something I should wait on? Even though I look pretty young for my age, I wouldn't mind a little more help looking and feeling younger. Thoughts/suggestions?
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You've got a couple of choices. My recommendation would be to bump up your test e dosage and add proviron at 50mg throughout the cycle. If you can get the aromatase inhibitor dose dialed in and you're not using legit pharma gear then bump it up to 750mg/week. If you know you've got pharma / human grade than stick with 500 and have success again with the test and proviron and only.
Hitman187If you had great results the first time with test e, why not stick with just that. Maybe you can bump dose up an extra 100mg a week and run 600mg week. As the old saying goes if it aint broke dont fix it
Thanks for the great replies. I guess I got lazy about my avatar pic because that was over a year ago. I bulked up quite a bit, gained some fat too. Also, the slow running is more due to not running at all for a year more than anything else. I was deployed for 8 months and worked out and didn't run not even one time. It's improving. It's not a huge deal because 90% of the time I do PT on my own.
I like both suggestions I've seen- test e and EQ, and test with prop kicker and taper.
I like the added endurance EQ would add, as well as the added appetite. Lack of appetite was one of my biggest problems during my first cycle, I think mostly due to never getting the Aromasin dosage down right until the last week. I've also read that it's easier on hair loss than most stuff, so that's good considering at age 39 I still have a full head of hair. I didn't notice any hair loss during my 1st cycle, so I should be okay. The only negative I see is how long it stays in your system. Although it's rare for someone in the military to be tested for steroids, it does happen.
I also like the idea of a prop kicker and taper. It kinda sucks doing all that test e pinning for a few weeks and going through that PIP and not really seeing any results from it until down the road. I also like that because it's short ester it's out of your system and not as detectable as long. Avoiding bloating is also a nice selling point. I kinda got a fat face my 1st cycle, but really not too bad.
It would sound nice to combine both suggestions, but I'm sure that's a bit much gear for a 2nd cycle. I think I'm leaning toward the test e with EQ plan since I do have to run for time every so often.
AnonI dont think a test e/eq cycle with prop kick would be too much for a second cycle, sounds like fun actually ;-P
Agree with below info....your bf is <10. I'd say 8. Could be a runner, for sure.
If you've got to run so much, I don't understand why you want to get heavier. 220 is a good weight if you have to do timed runs.
Like people said, diet if your actually 17% but you definitely don't look it?
If I had to do timed runs I would run eq and low dose test. Eq is fantastic for endurance. It really does depend on your goals. If they are to get to 250 then ignore what I said but I'm sure that weigh will effect your times on the runs.
Army PT sucks. If you are forced to follow your platoon's regimen it's very difficult to train properly. So unless you are going to the gym at the end of the workday, which could lead to over training, the only thing you have left to your own power is diet. I highly recommend you get that bf % down. Work on your diet and burn some of that off. There's plenty of threads and diet experts you can friend request. I think if you can afford hgh for a year long run then go for it.
If you've been in the army for at least a couple of years then the PT is routine and the gym after the work day might be a good idea. High rep, light to moderate weights and other than a run cardio. And diet down. Get that bf down a few points before you cycle again, you'll be much happier with your cycle if you do.
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I just noticed your avatar picture. If that's you and a fairly recent picture, there's no way you're 17%bf or even 15. I'd think that's closer to 10 or 11. Cycle away!
RustyhookerNothing wrong at all repeating first cycle. Same doses etc. You can add In prop kicker and taper if you can pin eod. Use pulldowns up top and join beginners group. Then post up ideas. Tons to learn and simple is fun
X2. Good idea right here with the prop kicker and taper.
X2...plus saw palmetto and proviron. I am on this saw palmetto kick, right now.
I think for your situation you are best sticking with test. HGH is nice but for you it doesn't sound like you need it yet at all and it is expensive. You still think you will make your run time at 240 when you are just squeaking by right now?
Well 19 Nors (deca, tren, npp) have a negative affect on your cardiovascular endurance so that rules them out. Excess water weight hinders it too there goes anadrol and d Bol.
For your second cycle, anavar or EQ would be best. Since you don't have a problem with pinning (I.e. HCG injections) I think EQ would be awesome. Anavar is great but is expensive and it's an oral so some get Stomach problems with it and you can only run it a few weeks at a time. If you can run 16-18 week cycles, def look into EQ. A test/EQ cycle is very flexible depending on how you dose it. For guys who wants a lean bulk 500 test/600 EQ works great. For those that are cutting out the fat, 250 test/600 EQ works great.
Now that I pointed you in a direction, I want you to do some research on EQ and see if you think it's good for you, ie fits your goals, past medical history wouldn't cause issues et.