Random cycle thought. Crazy idea!
I'm not planning on doing this but I just wanted some feed back. Seems like this may actually have some benefits but I'm going to ruin primo this run. Anyways...
Test base at 250mg/wk
1st 4 weeks tren ace
2nd 4 weeks eq ace
3rd 4 weeks tren ace
4th 4 weeks winstrol
You get my idea. Switching short ether injectables! With this you could get a smack in the face with power and strength for a nice kick start with tren then do a quick bulk eat everything for 4 weeks getting your weight up with eq then back to tren maybe slightly lowering carbs but still staying super strong then finish with winni and really fine tune carbs and tighten right up. It makes me believe switching like this would prevent your body getting used to anything. Any benefits to something of this nature?
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waltryou'd be injecting a whoooollllllleeeeeee lot
Well 2 chems at a time switching every 4 weeks for 16 weeks
RustyhookerIf you haven't run eq base....good luck. Much easier ways to grow than what's posted.
Never have. Never ran tren either (not for a long time yet). Thanks for the insight! Just curiosity and boredom lol
both tren and eq ace have some high pip with them. personally, i don't think eq has any place in this cycle. what all compounds have you ran so far, and how many cycles?
I realize you're not currently running it... But I'm curious of your experience level, bc any recommendations need to reflect you as an individual.
Oh I got ya. Dude you grew fast in a short year. Wft!? Hard to believe! Lol my 1st cycle was a mess then TEST E 500mg/wk & P 100mg/eod (wk 1-4 & 12-14). 2nd real cycle: TEST E 500mg/wk (wk 1-14) & P 100mg/eod (wk 1-4 & 14-16) & EQ 600mg/wk (wk 1-14 frontloaded)
What you mean "grew fast in a short year?"
Last questions, what are your goals and are looking for a short duration cycle or longer one?
I like longer mild cycles... I think lol. goals are semi lean bulk but I don't mind a little bloat and fat but this will be a pretty lean one. I'm still pretty small. I won't cut for at least another year. My goal is to experiment with compounds and educating myself until I'm a decent 225 then cut. I plateaued around 193lbs this last time around. Hoping 4 more cycles to reach my weight goal. I have many other goals but that's the main one.
Ok. With the amount of experience you do have - and btw you're first 3 cycles were chosen wisely so I'll bump you somewhere for that - but we still need at least a couple more to go before tossing in a 19, especially tren.
Thing about eq is that its such a long lasting ester, and being a dht it limits what you can stack with it without causing dht sides and prostate issues. You're still wanting to experiment with compounds so that you can learn them. Keeping it controlled and disciplined is important here, and so far you're doing a good job.
Masteron and anavar would be good additions for you, but you'll have to choose between those and eq IMO, as they are dht's as well. Also, running them in the same cycle has to be done in a manner that they are staggered, rather than ran consecutively to avoid/minimize dht issues.
I think, a longer cycle with a comfortable test base (no more than 500/week of enanthate or cyp) along with mast-e would be great for you. You can run a 4 week kicker with prop for both test and mast. Taper the test down with the enanthate to 250/week, drop the mast, and toss in the anavar but at a moderate dose of 50mg ED for this first run. Do this for 6 weeks and then taper with prop and start pct. Or, you could run prop in place of the enanthate once you are ready to drop the mast. Do that also for 6 weeks, and you'll be able to start pct 2 weeks sooner.
Demonstrating controlled protocols with you compounds and proper execution of AI's and other ancillaries is what tells me that the person is ready for 19's like NPP, deca, or the trens. Once that person is ready, my preference is to start the 19's with short esters only. This way you can drop it and correct easier and quicker if you find it's not for you. Personally, I like a short blast with NPP, test at 250/wk or prop eod, and winny for 8 weeks. Gotta have prior experience with winny for this though. And MUST have demonstrated proper execution of AI's in previous cycles.
This way we know you have an understanding of how to regulate the affected hormones with ancillaries. You do not want issues with unregulated prolactin.
I actually have no desire to ever use tren. The cycle you're recommending is great but here is my argument (tell me if you agree). I want to use primo instead of mast because of my bf level not being low enough to really see the hardening effects it has. That's basically it. This idea for that goofy cycle was just a thought not anything I plan on trying any time in the near future if ever. I just wanted toget feed back on why or why not to ever do something along those lines. But anyways. I was thinking lower test (250/wk) and high primo (800mg/wk) running 16 weeks tapering both with short ethers and possibly finish up with 80mg/day var last 4 weeks. Basic aro/nol/clo pct. Maybe call it a semi lean bulk? Thanks for taking time to read and write me bro. I appreciate your help aa lot.
I actually have no desire to ever use tren. The cycle you're recommending is great but here is my argument (tell me if you agree). I want to use primo instead of mast because of my bf level not being low enough to really see the hardening effects it has. That's basically it. This idea for that goofy cycle was just a thought not anything I plan on trying any time in the near future if ever. I just wanted toget feed back on why or why not to ever do something along those lines. But anyways. I was thinking lower test (250/wk) and high primo (800mg/wk) running 16 weeks tapering both with short ethers and possibly finish up with 80mg/day var last 4 weeks. Basic aro/nol/clo pct. Maybe call it a semi lean bulk? Thanks for taking time to read and write me bro. I appreciate your help aa lot.
Lol n/m I was looking at levelup and thought it was you. My next cycle I was planning was:
Test E 250mg/wk 16 weeks w/prop taper
Primo E 800mg/wk 16 weeks w/primo prop taper