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So i recently started test e 500mg/ml 1/2 ml twice a week. Its so painful i can't use the appendage i shoot in. Im 3 shots in and want to stop. So my question is when do I start pct?

BigThing's picture

After only 3 shots of long ester I wouldn't even bother with a pct, it will just mess up your whole system more. You pinned for a week basically. At your age and with this being a first cycle, 3 shots won't shut you down. You might feel a little weird for couple days but should be fine. Get some natty test boosters with DAA and save t

Dacky's picture

It's a fair point this. I guess from my perspective I'd rather be conservative here. No pre cycle bloods were drawn etc. You are right tough the OP is young and 3 shots of long eater test may have not made much of an impact i.t.o shut down but then again it may have. Probably not but rather be safe than sorry. A few weeks of Clomid is not going to mess anything up very significantly in my view.

Bloodandgold74's picture

Thank you everyone for the time and advice especially @Dacky i will do a ton more research and stop this cycle. You all have been a big help I'm thankful for the knowledge.

Dacky's picture

It's a pleasure fella. As I said respect to you for making the right decision here and being totally open to learning. Drop me a PM anytime you like.

Dacky's picture

So the OP is definitely stopping and will PCT. From chatting in PM he is not ready to run a cycle and recognises this. Significant amount of research are needed and he has undertaken to do this. He will give serious thought to his nutrition and training (seeking advice on these forums as necessary) to further build his base naturally. If/when he is ready he will put together a plan and post it up here for feedback and critique.

Well done for seeking some advice and reacting maturely to the feedback +1

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Thanks for giving him your time in PM bro................ +3 for a proper eroidian .

Please stick around Mr Dackster........ we need your calibre around here brother Smile

Dacky's picture

Cheers fella. It's only my pleasure to spend the time doing my bit. As I said to MedDx yesterday I've been here long enough and learnt so much it's only right I give back as much as I can :-)

MedDx's picture

X2...

Bloodandgold74's picture

This is my first cycle. I only
Was able to get the 50 mg clomid of 30 tabs? Am i fucked should I see a doctor?

Dacky's picture

Ok mate. First of all calm down. You're only 3 shots in so if Clomid is all you have in this case I believe a Clomid only PCT should be ok if you can't get hold of the Nolva. I would run it at 50mg per day for 30 days. Now as you're on Test E you know to start your PCT 2 weeks after your final pin. So realistically you have some time to source some Nolva. Plenty of excellent sources on this site. Go and check them out and read the reviews. A word of advice from me is not to skimp and buy UGL PCT meds. Go pharmagrade everytime with this.

Now here is the real issue. I am glad you reached out and have decided to stop. It sounds like to me given the questions you are asking you are no way near ready to be running a cycle. You my friend need to spend some serious hours researching. For example do you have an AI on hand in case you got estro relates sides (assume you know what these are)? Why would you start a cycle without having planned your PCT and obtained the relevant PCT meds in sufficient quantity and right doses? What about blood work? Did you run this before you started your cycle to establish you base line? Do you know when to pull on cycle bloods and what to look for? And most critically why do you even want to run a cycle in the first place? What's your BF? What are your goals? What does your diet look like for the cycle - calories and macros please? What does your training split look like?

Your 27 and 170lb so send to me you have a way to go training and eating correctly natturally to build a sufficient base before you jump on a cycle. You need to learn to eat and train effectively first or cycling aas is going to be spinning your wheels and probably counterproductive.

I'm not trying to be a dick and hopefully it doesn't come across that way. There are plenty of folks on this site both younger and older with significant experience. Please use it. Shoot me a FR if you like and I'll be happy to help anytime. I'm sure others will chime in her so you can check consistency (or not) of views on your situation.

Oh and last thing hit the "reply" button when answering a post otherwise the person you're answering won't be notified you've made a comment or asked a question.

Good luck bro. I and others are here to help so please listen and lean on us.

Bloodandgold74's picture

I only have 50 mg clomid about 30 tabs will that be enough?

Dacky's picture

Well with Flash's plan you would need 14 x 50mg Clomid tablets and as Nolva usually comes 20mg tablets you would need 28 of these.

Given you're asking this what was your original plan for PCT. What was he plan for this cycle? What's your cycle history or is this the first one?

I see the fella below is offering an alternative option with continuing. If you are considering that then please keep the conversation going so we can understand more and try and help/advice appropriately. Many factors to consider here. Flash and I advised on how to effectively PCT now as you said you want to stop. Hence the direction given.

Let us know if you want to discuss further.

ChickenBirdOfGains's picture

When you're running that high a concentration, more BA/BB is required to dissolve the extra powder. This is where the pain is coming from. I have a better idea than stopping. You could purchase some GSO, mix the Test500 with an equal amount of sterile GSO in a beaker, split between new vials. Now you have some fresh Test250.
Happy pinning!

IrishMack's picture

diluting the high mg gear will not make the pip magically dissappear. Depending on the carrier oil and the high ba and bb it will still hurt just not as much. His best bet is to start over again and research a little more.

TheFlash85's picture

Stats
Age: 27
Height: 5'6
Weight: 170 lbs
BF:

3 shots in and want too stop? what pct meds have you got?

wait a week and do 2 weeks of nolva and clomid, the esther will still be active for about 14 days.

clomid- 50-50
nolva- 40-40

good choice in stopping, the pain/ pip aint worth it, try a more reputable source next time, good luck.

Dacky's picture

+1

I agree with the plan to stop. Major pip is always a risk with high mg/ml gear. These days when I run Test I only run pharmagrade. Never get pip from it but that just my personal choice. Flash has got you covered on the PCT. Assume you have these meds on hand?

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