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+ 1 First cycle

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Cycle Length and layout:
Length 10 weeks
Weeks 1-4 Methan10 40 mg per day
Weeks 1-10 500mg Test Cyp per week
Weeks 1-10 Anastrozole .5 mg per day (continue to run this for 10 days after cycle)

Was just trying to get some feed back about this beginner bulking cycle. What do you guys think? Please only give legit feedback. I'm new and just trying to learn.

MedDx's picture

Stats
Age: 27
Height: 5'6
Weight: 170 lbs
BF:

Body fat calipers can be found on line or at GNC. They are about 20 bux.

Calculate BMR using Harris Benedict Equation. Bring the number back here and we will go over food, calories and macros.

Good suggestions from bros below..

Bloodandgold74's picture

I will be picking some up today and will post BF

MedDx's picture

Sounds like a plan...

Dacky's picture

Hello fella. I know you from a post and PM we were working on together last week.

Here's your stats if I've got this right:
Age: 27
Height: 5'6
Weight: 170 lbs
BF:

Please post these I future when asking for advice. What's the BF again?

Sounds like you've gone and done a bit of research which I am pleased about. Well done on that part. So for the cycle I've got a few comments. Firstly drop the d-Bol. This is your first cycle so as a good rule of thumb run a single test compound for this. Test C at 500mg per week (split doses 3.5 days apart) is perfect. I would increase the duration to 12 weeks of you can.

Now as to the anastrazole that dose is going to probably crash your estrogen badly unless you're someone who aromatises heavily and quickly. So here's what you do. Before you cycle go and get pre-cycle blood work run. Female hormone panel will give you everything you need. This established your baseline. 5 weeks into the cycle pull bloods again and compare against a baseline. You're estrogen should be up but as long as its not out of range (so if you're upper end of range your probably ok) you should be good. You need estrogen to grow. If you're slightly out of range then a low dose (say 0.25mg eod) will be a good place to start and you go from there. Watch out how you respond to the anastrazole as even at very low doses this can crash some people estrogen hard. Personally I prefer to use Aromasin and start dosing at 6.25mg eod if needed. It's a more forgiving AI than anastrazole in my opinion. The concept of blood testing to determine need and dose is the same regardless. Now it is important for you to listen to your body for signs of high estrogen during these 4 weeks but for most a test at week 5 is all that's needed. If you do get high estro symptoms you can start running the anastrazole/aro sooner.

Clomid and Nolva PCT is perfect. I would dose it like this for this cycle:
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 60/40/20/20
There are other protocols out there but that should do you fine for a 12 week cycle of Test C.

So now to the stuff that's missing. You say you want to bulk and when we last spoke about this I suggested you had some work to do natty before cycling. Is that your plan still and is this planning for a cycle? Regardless I would like to know your current diet and what this will look like on cycle. Calories, macros and sources of food at least or post the actual plan at best.

Lastly what about training. What does your training split look like for this cycle?

All the best!

Bloodandgold74's picture

This is me just trying to plan ahead and learn more about a solid first cycle before jumping the gun again. As far as diet it consist of alot of fish,steak,chickenbreast. Healthy carbs fruits and vegetables. I would say my diet is pretty healthy. I dont drink soda or juices. I consume more or less about a gallon of water a day. My abs show but not as much as i would like so i believe that my bf is around 15%. Also as far as calories i would put it at about 3500 a day maybe 4000. I drink shakes as well

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Ok Harris Benedict equation puts your TDEE at about 3200 calories per day assuming you train hat about 6 times per week. So this is what I want you to try. Get your calories up to about 4200 per day made up approximately as follows:

Protein - 300g
Carbs - 450g
Fat - 133g

You can play with the carb and fat macros depending on how insulin sensitive you are. Track your foods using an app like myfitnesspal and get yourself some kitchen scales so you can weigh your food accurately. Try and get as much of this in whole foods with the carbs as low gi as possible. You can consume higher gi carbs immediately post workout. Limit your shakes and protein bars as much as possible. Try limit these to immediately post workout so the majority of your protein is from whole food and natural sources. Try this for 8 weeks. Make sure you train 3 days on 1 day off for about 1 hour max (of actual training time) focus on big lifts at heavy weights. I like to hit my body parts twice a week so two leg days, two push pull days and an arms day. Rince and repeat. Also for 8 weeks. Track how your progress your weights and increase your strength.

Get yourself some body fat callipers (they're very cheap off amazon) take a staring reading and track this as well as your weight weekly.

Let's revisit in 8 weeks after implementing this plan and see where you are. Then we can asses on whether this basic test c only cycle is appropriate to run at this point. For now go and get your bloods drawn and the female hormone panel run to establish your baseline. Please share the results (blacking out personal info of course).

Hope that helps but any questions let me know.

Good luck fella.

Bloodandgold74's picture

Thanks again will put this into action tomorrow morning. Work calls... thanks guys.

Dacky's picture

+1 on asking great questions and being very open minded and mature.

Good luck brother. Keep us posted here or on PM as to progress and do get those bloods run.

MedDx's picture

Nice plan...Mr. D.... Smile

Dacky's picture

Cheers fella!

chunkypbnj's picture

No need for dbol.
Make sure you have AI on hand in case you need it. Only bloodwork will tell you for sure. Get it done week 4 or 5.
Put your PCT up as well.
I'd go 12 weeks, not 10.

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Bloodandgold74's picture

@chunkypbnj Anastrozole is AI correct? and for pct i was going to do 4 weeks of clomid and nolva just to be safe any suggest for pct would be appreciated

chunkypbnj's picture

Yes. You can use adex (arimindex) or asin (aromasin). That's the normal PCT. I add horny goat weed. Helps keep sex drive going.

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