posted Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:55
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OKAY IM READY FOR it
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Test E 750week
Mast E 600 week
Winny 50 ed
Don't kill me yet if I left something out will change it I have it written down I'm on my phone here's the other suggestion
Test p 40mg ed
Tren ace 50mg ed
Mast p 100mg ed
Damn my shirt is wet lol
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Holy shit!!! Look at the fucken bad advice being hammered down here! What the fuck happened to test and food? Irongame and Vike have it...Big test,big food,heavy fucken weights until you puke,add the proviron to charge up the test. Dude your under 200 pounds you don't need all those compounds...
Already said it I was 210 then I know it might not been best decision I did test tren mast.
I was going to do test but I asked about mast bcuz I know the last rime it helped with estrogen a lot I don't want this thread to come off like this guy is freak n crazy I study
Research have note books with things written down but there's is nothing like action when its time its like pinning yourself I believe u can research how to do it all day but soon as your about to pin your heart racing sweating like crazy you think u are having a heart attack. Then u stop and think OMG! The video and my research did not tell me that. My point is sometimes you need to check for yourself hope I put it in right words not trying tobe rude.
LoL. Dude your fine... Its just some of the guys lately are not thinking before they give out advice,,, Nothing on you man!
I got now I started posting then it was too late sorry lol I'm good
Hes not gonna listen. People never take the simple advice they assume they need all kinds of shit to make gains. To many people chimed in after me and vike and gave there suggestions and I'm sure he isn't even considering the test proviron anymore. He's gonna run everything under the sun.
That's not true then why post up my cycle I'd I did not want feed back from everyone I could of kept it to myself then did it anyway so that comment does nor apply to me.
I will say this for second I was confused everybody went into there own thing so I just started taking notes.
Relax man. IG is just going off of what has been happening lately. We have alot of new guys on here that don't understand how we do things. Everyone is a fucken know it all. The real deals, Vike, Champion, Rolltide, IG Noid, Just to name a few, these guys will back up there advice with real world exp and science. Our number one concern is safety, number two is giving OP's a complete toolbox to far exceed there goals. Thats why you see alot of us asking what diet is like. Gear is but 1 tool in a body building toolbox. Food is the most anabolic substance on earth, a complete program will yield HUGE results over a program that is just a shit ton of compounds...
No nut Huggins I agree when I change my diet and kept at it was great I use to read others people thread and say I don't believe but now I'm a believer lol. I change my diet I have more energy feel better during the day I sleep better well I was past couple of days I've been missing sleep but the point is I guess I did not want to get put: n that box that I know everything I take advice from everyone on eroids when you guys give it I still research it again also. Think I might be a little sensitive today lol.
Lately I just shake my fucken head...
I think we've succesfully confused the hell out of this guy now with a miilion people telling him what to do. Just stick to what me and Viking told you to do, 750mgs of test and proviron. Forget adding more drugs and complicating things. Add more food.
Lol now have so many options to choose from
I would switch the Tren or the Winny which ever you choose out with Anavar at 100mg a day. It is much safer and just as effective. Are you able to do that?
There is a lot going on in this thread. I have only one thing to add, and this just generally speaking. YOU need to find YOUR lowest effective dose. It is different for everyone. If you start at 750 Test E you don't have anywhere to go with it, if you start at 500 that might work well or it might not but then you can ramp up.
IMHO it's always best to start hella low, no matter the compound then ramp up as needed. That's the only way you will find your dosage, no one's dosage is the same. We are not making cookies, there is no solid recipe, you take the ingredients and make them fit your body.
That's why you start with test only, then the next cycle you know your test dose so you can add one thing. Then you will know your dose for that one new thing and it just continues as you learn how your body respond to new compunds. I wish I had all the shit availble you guys do I would blow the fuck up lol
X2 great advice.
Don't want have a riot in this thread again lol but I already did 500 test experimented with a few things to find out what worked for me now I know
Mast is great and all... If you're in the single digits and looking for that hardening effect. Other wise I honestly do not see the point, unless it's for a form of estro control.
what the hell is going on in this thread? 5'9 197 3rd cycle...tren is out, your not even close to that compound yet. 197 @5'9 is not very big, I would say you probably havent even reached your genetic potential naturally which tells me the problem is your diet.
to put on size im not a fan of test/mast/winny. I dont know what your cycle history is but my suggestion, a compound that has become a favorite of mine, is to run test/EQ. if you have ran EQ before then maybe a t-bol kicker. all 3 of those compounds are great for lean bulk(if thats what you wanna call it)gains. it will keep you fairly dry and the long run gives you a great chance of keeping the gains.
mast is not a compound for gains, and its pretty hard to find quality raws right now.
so a couple options
test-e 1-16 750mg/w
EQ 1-14 600mg/w
if you have ran EQ then
t-bol 1-6 50-80mg/d or
winny 12-16 50mg/d
Adex on hand, use if necessary
PCT 19-22
clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
that would be my cycle advice based on what I see.
that and you need to up your calorie intake
Wow these thread had ton of action. I agree with the oils and Tbol perfect cycle for 3rd, but drop the winny and run proviron through out the cycle at 25 to 50 mg ed to maximize free test and keep lean. No reason to run winny on a lean bulker IMHO. Everything else perfect and spot on.
I just wanted say about tren I was advised against it just tried to experiment on my own. I'm not saying that was smart but I did do my own research and was very prepared
Ive ran tren alot, and my experience is its over rated. personally my opinion is that EQ is highly underrated, it really is a gem of a compound and i would take it over tren.
Eq Is one of those compounds where people either swear by it, like yourself, or say it's completely worthless. I think I read somewhere, maybe it was from angus that he's never seen any eq more then like 83% pure, and most aren't even close to that. So maybe the reason why some guys felt it was worthless was because the batch they got was crap. I never ran it before but I'm sure at some point in time I'll give it a shot.
I'm one of those who found equipoise worthless. Ran it at like 800mg/w for 16 weeks and meh. Turned out the purity was like 65% so that probably had a lot to do with it but it seemed the only gains I made off it was high a red blood cell/hemocrit/hemoglobin count. Either way, it was a good first and last time for me.
Wow that's not a small dose either. And I think that purity is pretty average for eq. Will see I'm sure I'll give it a try one day. Giving blood often is necessary tho.
I personally love eq ran it in two cycles. Definitely worth a try
Yaa seems like It produces some really nice lean gains. No water, I'm sure at some point I'll probably give it a try.
I have not ran it long enough to see results from it was long time ago b4 I joined eroids I know a little more compound now
Thanks roid noid vike said same thing I was 205 b4 I had cut down some wanted to lose fat I did with my diet made from a member on here that's gone pro I still have it now just have to chenge up a little so I can up my calories put my goal is to put on more size and dry muscle but I know its definitely from diet bcuz you probably can't tell from pics have been a little of on that but not I have so many suggestions from you guys I really appreciate it
Wow a lot goin on in this thread Op u got the heavy hitters on here. May I ask what your two previous cycles was and at what doses. Do u have any idea of your body fat at the moment
Pathetic................ WTF is that designed to create????
I have it written down different with dosage that's why I posted for advice trying to go for lean mass or basically recomp
I have it written down different with dosage that's why I posted for advice
You mean my cycle is shitty
not shitty..................... FKN TERRIBLE!!
Damn can u make some suggestions
I want to see what these youngsters come up with for you first bro............ they seem to be the driving force these days, what i will say is this> you dont need to cut or recomp!...... you need to build size first and foremost then have something real to cut back too.
BIG test + BIG calories+ Big ass weights until you drop....................... THATS the cycle.
1-18 Test e/c 1g/wk (500e3d)
1-16 Deca 700mg/wk (350e3d)
1-18 Mast e 400mg/wk (200e3d)
1-20 Proviron 75mg ed
1-4 Anadrol 100mg ed (am/pm)
Letro prami/caber on hand.
you need to find out more information from OP before ever advising deca for that long, it is a 19nor and can shut you down hard, only an advanced steroid user with several 19nor runs should consider running deca 16 weeks.
there is way to much going on with this cycle for someone on their 3rd cycle. there is more but ill leave it at that.
I shouldn't have even posted that at all. This whole thread got all weird with people talking about high dose this high dose that, put on big mass yada yada. I posted up a cycle that would put big mass on anyone that wasn't directed at OP. Did I think it was appropriate for OP? Not even close. This thread got away from what's good for Sic26 pretty fast. I don't think any of the suggestions were good other than test and provi. This post turned into a mess and got on to completely different subjects such as never using an ai. So I left and took it to pm.
Not how I'd run it.
I'm going to let this develop here before I put any suggestion out for review. Watch the test : deca ratio and review the suggested provi : test ratio. Some wasted cash going on here IMO.
correct bro.... ratio is well off and the provi is too high for the stated test (cash dump)...... this OP has zero need for any other compounds imo.... test/provi/calories/hard work will show results .
My bad bro, I accidentally negged you
Exactly where I'm going with this - test / mast / provi / shit load of food. Nothing more complex required
1g / wk test
300-400mg / wk mast e
50mg ed provi
Eat everything in site.
Job done IMO.
Now I've got a question. Mast/provi combo is gonna be pretty rough on the hairline and prostate, right? Why would I want to put my body under more stress with that combo when I could get the same effect using aromasin without the added stress on the body.
At the last week of mast right now with provi. It seemed like I was shedding a little bit around week 4 or so but then everything seemed to just go back to normal. I still have my hair. Taper begins Sunday.
Doesn't affect me, but that's about knowing your body yourself. I've got a full head of hair (albeit mostly grey), mast doesn't have that effect on me.
Then dont................. do whatever you choose.
P.S..... i have a full head of hair and no prostrate problems...... but thats me!!
This is cycle for ebc
Where u at vike
sat back just watching bro