posted Wed, 11/23/2011 - 10:03
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Right I'm running hgh only at 3 iu it's been about 2 month now and il stay on for a year, I'm don't want to take test as this would mean taking more hgh iu and t4 . So my question is this can I still running cycles that don't include test? Tren, mast, eq, winny ect any feed back would be great
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AnonSome test on that HGH would ALL GOOD. I don't know where you got information you'd have to bump your HGH on Test but it is BS. I am running 2iu's HGH and ramped up to 750 mgs Test and going to drop the Test to 600mgs cause I know myself very well and I am getting PLENTY!! I think the HGH compliments the Test and vise-a-versa. Slow down there Cowboy :-)
AnonHave a look online for a book named anabolics, it explains a lot about this matter.
Id suggest you run anything you like with 100mg of test c per week, this way you will be getting more from the steroid and hgh. If you do run a no test cycle you will suffer libido wise. Noone likes it limp
Hey rods...Why the hell are you showing as Anon?
BTW, if I hover over your avatar with my mouse it still says "Rods' picture"
Of course you can run cycles that don't include test, I would advise to go with tren because of its great effect on IGF-1 production.
However, even if you did take a moderate test dosage like 500mg/week you still would not necessarily need to ramp up the HGH. Also, you take the T4 because HGH slows your thyroid down and you want to keep it running normally, this has no relation to the test.
Even 2 IU HGH for 6 months would be enough for a first-timer. If you ramp up to 4 IU and run 16 weeks test @ 500mg beginning in month 3 you will see amazing results.
I understand the t4 side of it but at 3 I'm ok without when I use 4 iu or more I need it then or I bloat up, only reason I don't want to run test is cause I've read that the hgh would be worthless unless I up the dose and then il need t4 to complete the loop. So I was hoping I could keep it simple something like 3 iu hgh, 400 mg Tren, 400 mg eq, and proviron 25 mg day what u think
The problem with this is the effect of the progesterone that is typical for nandrolone-derivatives; the tren will drop your libido down to 0. That is why it is usually always stacked with test.
Apart from that I don't see a problem with the cycle, however, bloat is not really typical for HGH past week 3 or 4.
BTW, I am not sure whether the proviron will really stop the loss of libido on this cycle. If you can live with it and take your chances with the proviron I would go for it.