posted Sat, 06/30/2012 - 13:09
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My Next Cycle
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So, Iam planning my next cycle and would like some input from more experienced juicers. Here is a little bit of info:
Iam 41 yrs. old
Around 11% body fat
Been working out on and off over 20 yrs.
Done a couple cycles in my early thirties and one recently
My last cycle was 100mg of test p and 50mg anavar ed. I ran
this cycle for 10 wks. I gained some lean body mass and dropped about 1% body fat.
So, here is my breakdown:
750mg test e
400-500mg either deca or eq
50mg d-bol ed
Should i run deca or eq? I already have the eq.
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Is it necessary to stop deca two wks before end of cycle, when I am going to cruise afterwards?
sgtstedankoFuck deca! Just fun & run the EQ cycle fast laid out for you. Utilizing prop kicker, & end... EQ is a better choice for your 2nd cycle, imho.
Also, if I run deca then .5mg caber 3x a week, right? I be using 12.5mg aromasin eod too.
Kick start with d-bol at 50mg ed for 4-5wks. Now, is once a day good?
sgtstedankoI read that optimum would be 10mg every 4 hours. I always just split mine up morn, afternoon, & night. Wash em down w/grapefruit juice.
Split is better so levels stay up. Forum last week was interesting....suggested grapefruit juice and peanut butter to aid absorption.
Even 2x per day isn't going to keep levels stable but probably better than once per. However, 50mg caps ar a pita to split, so I'll end up going once per day; unless, someone can convince me otherwise. Iam sure there are people out there that had success with dbol once per day. Anyone have any good results using d-bol this way?
Old dan duchaine promoted once a day dosing before lifting...hour half before. Caps are difficult...i open mine middle of folded binder paper and roll half out. But of course it is a pain. I ran liquid dbol so every 6 hours i had small bumps.
since I don't have the d-bol yet, then should I get some injectable, it would be easier on my liver too (so I heard).
I don't fully buy into the easier on liver idea. To chemically be dbol it has to have that carbon on 17th ring....17aa. The newer injectable dbols are getting reports as painless and the oils allow for longer release thru the day. The luquid dbol i had felt like slingshot to the leg so i ate it sublingual. Used my contact lens case as carrier for easy consumption at work.
So IMO getting the injectable or the 10Mg tabs. There's good sources here for tabs.
sgtstedankoSorry to hijack your thread. I'd rather see you buy some prop & kick off w/that. If you're buying more shit. Save that the Dbol. Take the time to half them out
you're fine. And I appreciate any and all suggestions even constructive criticism. It's better to discuss the details before rather than during a cycle.
This would basically your 2nd cycle according to info posted
1-4 dbol @ 50Mg/split thru day OR prop 100Mg eod
1-16 eq 600/biweekly
1-18 test e 500/biweekly
2Weeks after last test shot pct
Posted idea on.deca cycle below.
Agree!
I am going for some size gains and some strength gains. Iam going to kick start with d-bol and then pick it back up at the end of the cycle to help solidify my gains.
if you are going for size then run the deca and don't bother running the dbol EOC its a waste and will just bloat you out. they are called "kickers" for a reason bro
sgtstedankoIn more of an EQ guy, personally... If you've already got it, why bother w/a different cycle. If it were me, I'd run your cycle switching up the mg's for the test vs EQ. Running longer... Depending on what you're going for. Both would be great, imo.
Both deca and eq are notoriously slowww compounds so 14-16wks would be optimal and "I" would go with the deca if you're kicking with dbol but if you are going to go with the eq then prop or tbol would probably be the better kicker
Both are a good choice in there own respect, I'm more of a deca guy but that's just personal preference. Deca is a very versatile compound in that it can be ran in a cut low dose, or in a bulk high dose. Ultimately the choice is your, I'm sure you'll be happy with whichever you chose.
Think the dbol would stack better with deca as well
If bulk is the idea, yes.
Since hes only done one recent cycle.....this would really be 2nd cycle.
1-4 dbol 50/split
1-16 test e 500/wk split mon/thur
1-14 deca 300/wk split mon/thur
My last cycle was 100mg test p ed, so why 500mg of test e? I cruise on 100-200mg test c.
This is the first time cruise was announced. Only can assist with givens. Bodyweight? And your cruise doses change?
Went with 500Mg for the reason that realistically this is your second cycle. Yes you had priors but not in quite some time. During that off time your body can react differently than before and a second cycle doesn't typically get heavy in dosage. As you run higher cycles....you can force your body into NEEDING more in order to grow.
If youve basically done just one recent cycle you should grow well without going heavy on the mgs.
Bodyweight and last cycle time?
Eq will mean 14week cycle.