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+ 1 Low dose cycle working better than high dose cycle

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So. I ran my last NPP and test cycle at
750 mgs of test and 400 mgs of NPP
This time around I used 300 mgs of test and 300 mgs of NPP.
I am getting much better results from this low dose cycle. Same brand same supplier.
When I use high doses I seem to stop growing at week four or 5. When on low dose I grow until about week 9.
My suspicions are that the more gear all at once makes your receptors desensitize faster. Now, this doesn’t happen to everybody obviously. Everybody’s body reacts different. For me lower doses work better.
What are everybody’s thoughts?

guidofest's picture

Was you diet and meals as consistent as it was or better than it was when you ran more gear?

Me personally I can grow and shatter personal bests on almost any amount of gear if my meals and diet is super locked in and consistent.

It may be a blanket statement or over simplification but far too many people run tons of gear or ramp up the gear when they are not getting the look they want but eat like $hit or inconsistently.

Bill1976's picture

Meals are same except it’s a lot easier to eat on a low dose.

Big Tone36's picture

I've been telling guys this for awhile how I made gains using 4 i.u. gh and 125mg test e5d as if I was on a full blown cycle. Fact is this, a.a.s. work different in different combinations and work different in every person. You must expirement and find what works. I always start low and then bump things up accordingly

GrowMore's picture

More gear < more sides.. and if you can handle them < more gains.

I see a huge increase in gains running 750mg of test opposed to running 500mg but my BP rises and my general sense of well-being can drop meaning my workouts don’t have purpose and I’m not bang on with sleep or dieting. So I too gain more on smaller dose cycles for all intensive purposes.

Bill1976's picture

Tren don’t do it for me. The only compounds I run are NPP, test, masteron and Hgh. Gonna try anavar soon. I barely saw any gains from tren. It made me look skinny.

Makwa's picture

AAS actually upregulate your androgen rececptors. Your body has all kinds of checks and balances and one of those is production of myostatin to slow down the amount of muscle you can gain at once. Myostatin isn't bro-science, but my theory on might what be happening in your case could be part bro-science so here goes. The more and quicker you flood your body with androgens and start packing on muscle, the quicker your bodies feedback mechanism, ie. production of mystatin, will kick in. Your body doesn't want to put on muscle that quick.

Now the real question is do you put more muscle on your low dose 9 wk growth spurt vs your high dose 5 wk spurt or is it an equivalent amount but you just get there quicker with the high dose?

Bill1976's picture

I put more muscle on with the low dose for sure. Myostatin came to my mind too. I wonder if I go even lower if I will gain even more.

Bill1976's picture

I was completely off for the last few months. Man it’s sucked. I was natty until I was 41. I’m 45 now.

press1's picture

It may be because you can't eat as much as normal on higher test and NPP, I know I use to be like that at first.

Bill1976's picture

I’m gonna run an oral at the end only this. Got some Ava at coming