Input on a 4th cycle - for cutting
Im currently on a bulking cycle using sust 250, test e 250, test c 250 which will end at the end of march. I will be running TRT test cyp 125mg e4d after the cycle is over. At the end of may, Id like to start a cutting cycle, carrying the test cyp into it. I have used oral winstrol from balkan pharm before solo and liked the results but not the hepatoxicity. I have also run tren and primo alongside a sustanon previously, but i had never run any of them by themselves, and dont know how each works for me individually.
As such, I will not attempt to put together a cutting cycle without input from the experts first. Id like to stay away from orals and I have no objection to pinning every day.
Stats:
23yo
6'4"
228 lbs today, plan on being around 250 by end of cycle
Been in the gym since 14, this current cycle is number three
15% bf
mesomorph
I have all the ai/pct for both cycles and TNE that id like to run to kick that cycle off. What are you guys' thoughts for cutting compounds?
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AnonBro.... i think your doing this all wrong imo...... hit me up on pm and we fix up the next cycle.... all that test is only gonna give more sidesr
No worries i am here now
UPnSMOKEHe's 23. Can't you just fix him a diet and training program? U wanna write him a cycle?
AnonYes i will... tell him pm me or send a f.r. if he has not already done so..... he can research training.... i will set the cycle.... i wont do all homework for him... ill give tips and set a cycle up
This place has all the knowledge. He needs
Are you fuckin kidding me? Holly shit you don't have a clue. First you are to young to even be touching AAS, second why the hell would you run 3 different tests at the same time? This is your third cycle and you already tried tren? Now you are looking into oral winstrol? Why do you hate your body so much? I am sure I can't talk you into stopping but you need to educate yourself because you don't have a clue and if you continue cycling without a clue you will have some serious health issues not to far off
And youre cruising at 23 yr old bro?? Unless youre planning on being pro and not worried bout having kids ever this is a bad idea imho
He's not doing it by choice. Apparently made a mistake and shut himself down.
Yeah mistake was listening to advice from gym guys rather than researching. Hence why I'm here, finding out the proper way to do things
+1 Brother. and welcome aboard.
Instead of doing a cycle why don't you try a restart with tripto or hcg blast like me and zewi told you about.. the longer you cycle the harder it's going to be to come back to natty
Cuz this is bought and paid for and I'm gunna ask my endo about that and see if insurance will cover it
usually if he tells your insurance you took roids to cause it they won't cover it.. In any case hcg is easy as hell to get ahold of if you can't get real tripto.. Hopefully your doc just gives you tripto
Yeah I'm just gunna try it first and if not ill buy it online
Slow it down there. Yes, I tried oral winstrol and tren, Thats why Im 22 and on TRT cuz it fucked me all up. Im not on the test cyp currently, just sust and test e, the test cyp is my normal trt so I put it on there cuz its what ill be going back to after the cycle. Im not considering oral winstrol, nor am I considering tren. Thats why I posted asking for advice on what to run, cuz I listened to the big guy at the gym in the past and look where thats got me.
Anonsome people just don't know any better, brother.. before eroids i made my fair share of bad decisions. granted i was 29, but it goes to show how uninfomred the vast majority is out there. on the brighter side, he's only been a member for 12 days, and he's got an openmind.
You're running six different esters of test. I'm not sure if I've ever seen that before. Any of your short estered compounds will be better for cutting, npp, mast prop, etc. EQ is great for cutting if you don't allow your appetite to get out of control. I'm still just amazed by the six different eaters you're running. That's a new one for me.
the test c will just be at the end to transition back in TRT depending on what my endo doc says (I see him right as the sust and test e are done) about my labs. (I know, fives not that different from six lol)
I seems like I see quite a few cutters starting with test prop, and ending with mast prop and others. I have mast prop that I definitely think Ill be incorporating. Would EQ just be run start to finish while opening with test prop and closing with mast prop? And maybe just use the TNE prn for preworkout
Mast is a good next step kind of compound. It's relatively mild in terms of gains, and because it cannot aromatize you won't ever have any estro related issues. But it can make some guys much more aggressive. A 10 week test prop mast prop cycle would be a nice cutter. Prop and npp does really well together also.
That sounds reasonably simple. And Im very good and controlling anger and agression (I work in emergency medicine, so I am confronted all day long by people who need/deserve nothing less than to play in traffic. Thx man
Anonsame here... i don't understand the concept behind it at all...
yall recommend just tapering off the test e and save it for a rainy day while just running solo sust?
Anonfor your test, i'd rather see you go 750 ish on sust or 500 on enan or cyp, not a combination of the three. if you go 750 on sust, say either m/w/f or EOD, you don't need to kick at all and will get great results. whether you go with sust or a single ester, you should taper IMO.
ok, im not running the cyp now, just the sust 250 and enanthate 250 e4d. So basically just taper the enanth out now while increasing the dosing of the sust to fill the gap?
AnonI would just swap the Enan for the sust or vice versa. Don't worry about a taper mid cycle.
Thanks for the input man, will do. Im loving running this much test lol, gaining weight like rosie odonnell
AnonLol.