posted Fri, 03/23/2012 - 04:05
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INCREDIBLE PAIN! help!
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This is my first cycle and Im doing 250mgthat of test e a week. Everything has been fine til yesterday. Ive been pinning in my thigh and after the pin yesterday I developed pain in the lower part of my thigh. It has gradually gotten worse and now has a large knot and is incredibly painful to the touch. No bruising just the sweeling and immense pain. The knot isnt even near the injection site. Should I be worried? Maybe go to the dr? I can barely walk because of the pain. Any help on this is greatly appreciated. Ive learned a lot from the guys on this forum so I figured I would ask here before completely freaking out and rushing to the dr. Thanks a lot guys!
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I put heat on it last night and man what a difference it made! The pain is almost gone and so is the knot! Thanks again for all the replies guys! This site is the best place for knowledge and help with this stuff!
Glutes are less painfull. With quads inject higher. The lower oyou inject he more painfull it is. Nothing to worry about. Pain will go sooner or later.
Well you may have not hit the muscle, and it leaked out sub q causing the swelling. You do not need to go to the doctor unless its infected. It may take up to ten days before that leg feels normal.
Get some bengay extra strenght and it will help with the pain. Use bengay over orals pain relievers. Virgin muscles are also sensitive and as you pin the pain gets to be less and less of an issue. I had this issue when I started pinning, partly because of virgin muscle , partly because I was frontloading a large volume.
AnonAre you using big d's test ? If so I had the same problem a few weeks back it took about six days for it to feel normal again. I was very concerned too being my first cy le too. I used heating pad alot at night. It still didn't keep me out of the gym even though I was limping and walking very gingerly. I have actually only hit my glutes and delts since that day. I get mild to moderate pain in my glutes still but barely any pip in my delta. Im kind of paranoid to hit my quads again until this bottle is empty. I've read there may be alot BA in the mix which could cause irritation. I've used to other bottles prior alternating quads and only had minimal pip. Maybe its just the batch in the bottle. I hope this helps some.
Big D's Test E is at 300mg. Don't think hes on his gear.
sgtstedankoHow big of a knot? Muscle cramps? Have you been rotating any sites, or just pinning the same spot? Tried putting a heat pad on it, sat in a hit tub, or bath, massaged it, etc, etc, etc??? That being said if it really really hurts, &/or continues to swell, burns, yada, yada, yada, see a doc (probably wouldn't be a bad idea anyway). Who's brand of test e have you been using?
Its a good size knot. About the size of a golfball or a lil smaller. Swelling has stopped increasing but its still swollen and insanely painful to touch or move or anything. I can push through it now without feeling like my leg is gonna fall off lol. Im just worried that its something serious. Havent tried heat yet. I initially put icepack on it to stop the swelling and numb it a lil but it didnt help the pain any. The gear is chemical advantage. Im not gonna say theres anything wrong with the gear tho cause Ive been on it for about 4 weeks and this is the first issue Ive had. Ive been pinning in my right leg and decided to switch to my left for this pin. Thats the only thing Ive done different. Im still happy with the gear and will gladly be a return customer. I just cant imagine that it would take 4 weeks for the effects to show up if there was something wrong with the gear so Im thinking maybe I did something a lil wrong this time although it felt the same as always.
sgtstedankoOK, brother. IMO, you want to rotate between your quads every other pin r/l/r/l/r/l; get it? You're probably fine, just sore that's all. Don't use ice packs (prob just made it worse by doing that), use heat (to melt the oil that's built up) Make time to sit in the hot tub after working out, if you go to a gym to put in the work. It will get better and better everyday. This time two weeks from now, it will be a distant memory : ) If it continues swelling, burns hot, you start running a fever, my advice would be to see a doc. I would find a sports doc cool with juice, & stay updated. Keep us informed. Good luck & have fun
Thanks brother! That makes a lot of sense. HUGE help! I will rotate from now on. Im still just nervous over needles and the thought of hitting a nerve or something that once I got through the one side and it felt ok I just stayed there lol. Thats also why I chose to pin in the quad. It seemed like the least likely place that something would go wrong. Thanks again for everyones help! This is why I came here and will always be on here! The help and knowledge I get from here is amazing.
Also, I found that warming your oils makes for less PIP all around. I am running prop to kickstart, and I found it to be somewhat painful ( in comparison to the test e/deca) at first I wasn't warming the oils, had some issues with pip.. But after I started warming the oils, I get VERY LITTLE pip.What size and length pinz are you using? 23g 25? 1 inch 1 1/2? just wonderin' . I use 23g 1 inch for quads, work great.
sgtstedankoNo rotation = Abscess, sooner or later : ( Yeah, I think the quads are the easiest. I also think that's where they show trt guys to pin, now?
Hey don't mean to jump in mid convo fellaz, but also might wanna watch HOW you inject. The angle at which you come in has a lot to do with it also. Always make sure you come in at a 90 degree angle not a 45. I was pinning quads and delts with no prob, then one day I wasn't paying attention and went in on an angle.. pulled out and there was some decent bleeding, followed by some severe pain, and like you said a knot the next day. I didn't find it VERY painful, but I could def feel the knot in there!! I'm no expert bro.. I just started too, but I thought I might add my 2 pennies, because I noticed that when I didn't go in straight, IT jacked me up! Good luck with your cycle bro!
and like sgtstedanko said, no rotation = abcesses. If you are only running just the test, then you should never have to worry about injecting the same muscle 2x in one week. For test only I would either rotate between quads and glutes or quads and delts. Only when you are running multiple compounds, would you end up possibly hitting the same muscle more frequently.. and even then, by that time you should be more comfortable with pinning different injection sites, and could still get a good rotation going. Personally I only do quads and delts. I am still kinda new at this, so I am hesitant to try different injection sites. Gotta learn to swim before ya jump in the pool ya know? I would like to start hitting traps, but I have never seen or tried it. Getting some more prop to finish my kicker, maybe I'll have to give it a "SHOT" - LOL. Happy pinning bro! Hope you are feeling better brotha!