posted Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:54
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26 yo
6 ft 200 lbs
done a few test cycles then a dbol test and deca a few years back. Im usually 215 lbs but I cut some bf down for this cycle. My goal is to hit 225 lbs and i don't care how wet ill maintain my waist. Heres the cycle im thinking about, intoducing 2 new compounds. 700 mg/ week Sustanon 350 anadrol 50 and npp.figured id start anadrol 25 mg the first week then go up to 50 if I tolerate it well. Still unsure of npp dosage and duration of anadrol. If anyone has any other bulking compound ideas id like to hear about it
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My advice is to run a short cycle of test p/npp first. I contemplated running a similar cycle to the one you just proposed and I had already tried anadrol before. I think an 8 week cycle is a great option for you. For npp and other 19 nor, the first time you run it, it should at least be 1.5:1 test to npp ratio, 2:1 is better (150/200 test p, 100npp)
Don't try to do too much all at once.
I'm currently running 150 test p 100npp eod and I'm loving it. I feel great, blood levels are steady, I've had no mood swings like I did on test and anadrol. I'm not a fan of sust because of how much harder it is to plan your pct due to the different esters. Speaking of pct, what's yours?
Ya I was thinking about doing a 8 week test prop npp cycle but just kinda figured a long ester test cycle would give me more time to reach my goals, 220 lbs. But I have done one test prop only cycle and I liked it alot. Ive got clomid nolvadex and aromasin. Probably do 50 mg clomid /day 4 weeks may include nolva but not sure yet
I was thinking the same thing but decided going with prop. Best gear decision I've ever made. Your moods are so stable. Everyone I know who had aggression on npp was doing it with a long test. I'm also on proviron 25mg/day and I feel great.
I like prop because you can always extend it. You can do 6,8, or even 10 weeks. Say you're at 215 on week 8 you can do two more weeks to get to 220. The biggest thing that I'm looking forward to is, I don't have as long as a layoff between cycles
So something like 150 mg test prop eod 100 mg npp eod. Start them at the same time and pin them on the same days then? And how well do you think the npp has effected you. . Strength? Weight gain?
That's what I'm doing.
As far as weight gain, I had lost a lot of weight previously due to surgery, traveling and personal issues. I was 205 back before all that happened around 14% bf (straight up bulking) and I went down to 180. I'm back up at 202 but my bf is closer to 11% and I'm getting bigger and stronger than I ever was while being lean. My strength is increasing as I finally fixed some training issues. Libido is through the roof. My muscles are rock hard too because I've been on top of my AI and haven't been eating that dirty. When I first started the cycle I was putting on some bloat because I was eating w/e. I just tightened up my diet a little bit and the bloat went down and the lean muscle packed on
this would be considered 3 new compounds, sust is much different then a test cycle. one new compound at a time, learn how your body responds. this cycle has so much potential for gyno and estro related problems. I would never run this cycle without knowing how each of them works with my body.
Im warning you this cycle can be a real bad experience. running the cycle the way trapsquatch proposed will ensure you have a bad experience as well. unless you dont care about women that is.
Yea your right 750 a week sust and 400 week Npp is just too crazy By your account there must be gyno as far as the eye could see LOL brother the use of an Ai can combat many of the estro sides and I only covered those 2 compounds dont want 2 break any rules I also specified that running more than 1 new compound is frowned upon and not very wise =)
I wouldnt say its crazy, but his dick wont work from about day 3 to roughly 4 weeks into the cycle.....and by the way, ive said this before, short esters cant be counted in a weekly dose. mondays pin is mostly gone by thursday. in your dose recommendation it would be 57.1mg/d...
yes it can, however running three compounds at once that ALL are known to create more estro then the test-c he has ran in the past can create a lot of estro. meaning that your chasing your tail trying to figure out how much to take, or over dosing and crashing estro in an attempt to get it under control. For someone that does not have experience in the sides of estro, when to dose, how much to dose, and what crashed estro feels like. MY recommendation is dont jump in with both feet.
yes you did, however sust, do to esters varying in release time, is also considered a new compound.
Nice!!
RustyhookerAgree! Hormonal fluctuations.
Well bro post in the cycle section.....how x's are you pinning sust may I suggest Mon Wed Fri or EOD for stable blood levels you can also run the npp on the same schedule....if your dead set on running 750 then I would go with around 400 NPP on M/w/F or EOD.....but again rules here are introduce 1 new compound at a time....and with any 19nor always have prami or caber ON HAND not using right off the bat....Your BP will more than likely be elevated....and with sust I believe 12-14 weeks is standard length due to the undecanoate ester....but most important write down your diet your bodyfat and your training schedule/frequency I am tired and probably missed a few things but I covered the basics good luck =)
Good Npp dosage 400-525
Okay thanks. I was unsure on npp dosage. Since its a short ester what weeks would you run it thu. Im goimg to run sust 12 or 14 weeks