posted Fri, 11/20/2015 - 13:51
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So I have been doing some research because I want to know what steroids work best together(synergistically). I came across a good article that puts steroids into 2 classes. Class 1 and class 2. What I thought worked well together I was wrong about and some I was right about. I started thinking about this because of the talk on running Tren and Deca cycles. This article tells us there are no benefits from it. I wanted to bring this to the group and hear your thoughts about how to stack steroids better(synergistically). Here is the link to check out.
https://thinksteroids.com/articles/how-to-stack-steroids/
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Test-nor-dht. Tried and tested. Thats my stacks. But yes I see some ppl stacking compounds together that on paper look like shit but get awesome results. Then others that fuk up. I guess its what works for the individual. Ive done drol and dbol together- good- drol and winnie- good tren and deca- good timing also plays key role.
Test/19nor/DHT Classic! always has been always will be.
Bill Roberts is a respected guy but his articles suck. He's so damn vague and hardly cites any references. The only thing his articles are good for is to get you to think a little bit then do your own research. He doesn't provide a list that shows which compounds are class 1 or 2, and he doesn't explain why. How can anyone make an educated observation from this? Thanks for posting it House because I think it will turn into a good discussion once we research a little deeper.
RustyhookerAgree! He brings in your attention like he gets paid before he fills in any blanks.
yeah. I am waiting to see more brought to the table. It is a great discussion and can really aid in building better cycles and getting the most out of them.
We did not say this but test is base for all cycles and is has synergy with all.
So what I get from this is it is best to run class 1 with class 2 not class 1 together with class 1 or 2 with 2.
Nice find.
cool but I cant make it bigger. I cant even read it.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EZPBo-MiUFk/TlJlBB_QZ9I/AAAAAAAAB4I/HZhW8EyC7n...
Basically showing androgen receptor binding strength among androgens.
I think it makes it too complicated. I've tried tren and deca together with minimal test to keep my libido, and I get the benefits of fullness and joints relief from deca plus the vascularity and the 3D look from tren. I do look better from this combo imo although not recommended for beginners. If you're experienced enough you should start to experiment with it to figure out what stacks work for you.
I definitely see the benefits of stacking certain anabolics for a synergistic effect. Test tren and anadrol is one of the most effective stacks I've ever used, strength, mass, hardness, vascularity all in one. You see anadrol binds weakly to the receptor but its non genomic effects is what makes it shine. It fills the muscles with glycogen and since its dht based, water retention is kept at a minimum subcutaneously as long as your very lean when you use it. Unlike it's estrogenic rival dbol, very watery gains, and while some glycogen gets stored in muscles, it spills over subcutaneously and gives you a puffy look. I see great benefits in stacking dht based with 19 nor and test derived aas as well. They all have a certain effect on the androgen receptor. The metabolites of the androgens also play a part in their effectiveness as well. Your limited with stacking orals though because of the toxicity.
good stuff +1
bigmurphWhen I think of stacking steroids I think of making a balance between anabolics and androgenic like starting with test your base 100/100 and then stacking either anabolic steroids to reach a more anabolic goal or adding androgenic steroids to reach that type of goal .I don't think in my opinion that you would want to stack decca and tren in the same cycle i would say go with one or the other choose deca for bulkier mass gains and tren for harder shredded gains then as it was saying add dbol to either end and it would work great. Maybe im way off but that's what I would think
RustyhookerIf I read correctly, they aren't saying there's no synergy with deca and tren but no synergy if deca and tren is only 2 used in the stack. A deca/tren only cycle. Throw in an oral, class 2 in this case and synergy is with dbol/deca/tren.
but look.
since none of them act synergistically with trenbolone: a greater effect cannot be achieved by adding them than can be achieved with trenbolone alone at a sufficient dose.
Yeah maybe I am confused. That's why I posted this I was not totally sure.
bigmurphI have read before that dbol dose stack well with nor19 compounds I don't remember the science behind it but there is something there
RustyhookerClass 2 was orals and they're synergy was with tren. But say class 2 stack dbol and winny solo...no synergy.
Its a confusing read no doubt. The old classic deca dbol with test...boom.
bigmurphSo it's just explaining that you shouldn't stack multiple orals because they have no synergy
RustyhookerThat report looked as they divided a few items by class. Class 1 and class 2. Mixing the classes was synergistic. Since his listing of orals had been in class 2 there's no synergy. Dbol helps nitrogen retention and water load which helps strength. Winny is dry and unbinds test. The two together as a kicker works opposite of eachother.
Think about test and var or winny. End of cycle approaches, test is booming and you add one of those orals. Either one unbinds test thru lowering SBH allowing test to work harder. Var is very high in anabolism which aids in recovery, strength. Thats a synergistic stack.
boom