posted Mon, 05/27/2013 - 10:55
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What do you guys think about a low dose of deca with a regular cycle.Im running Primo at about 1000mg ew with test e at 250mg ew and mast e at 400mg ew.If i would have thrown in some Deca at 250mg aw would it be enough to help with joint discomfort?Would i hold onto to much water and not get the results that i want to see from the primo and mast?
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BigBmajHow much of an anti estrogen are you running? When I was running even 12.5 of aromasin my joints were hurting. I let my estro get a little higher now and my joints feel much better.
I think there is something to be said about taking those all in one joint formulas - MSM, Glucosamine, Oils, etc... I read good reviews on osteo biflex, but I take vitamin shoppes. I do notice an improvement.
j223 mentioned going lighter and using some igf-1 I think thats pretty sound advice. I have a hard time lifting light when I'm on cycle. Its fun to see what I can push, but I know this is just asking for a problem.
Good luck, let us know what you choose to do. I know many people in this boat.
RustyhookerTry and pick Logans brain. He's running low dose npp. Just enough for joints then pull out to finish dry. Deca would take too long to get into system plus very ling to get out. Don't wanna ruin the high dollar primo finish. He told me his doses but its been a few Weeks...brainfart
Just saw you're also running mast. I bet your estro is low//crashed.
It kind of depends on what your goals are. Sure adding some deca might cause a little retention but if it keeps you feeling healthy then I don't see a problem.
Are you a powerlifter? If not I don't see the need to go so heavy to the point of stressing your joints to the extreme.
Or do your joints always have pain? I don't know your background but if you have an injury then you might wanna look at something like HGH or IGF1 LR3 to help heal your joints up or even tb500.
But if you are only using the deca for the collagen synthesis there's no need as primo is actually increases collagen synthesis quite a bit.
My opinion? Use NPP if need be, but I wouldn't want to increase water retention especially with primo your paying a lot to use it and I would want to be able to get my moneys worth which means being ripped and dry so you can appreciate the look of being on high dose primo.
Add some IGF-1 LR3 for 4 weeks at a time, maybe once or twice during the cycle. If funds are available a low dose GH 3-4iu would also be nice to help keep joints strong. And finally to top off the cycle consider a 6 week TB500 blast and see if that helps.
ill check it out.I just wanted to use it to keep joints from hurting.
AnonHmm what about NPP instead of deca
If I remember right 250-300mg bi-weekly is sufficient but you can also use EQ. I would prefer EQ since its a milder compound than deca.
Joosemanhe's already running primo/mast. Adding EQ would be a waist. Thats like using Drol/Dbol/ then throwing in superdrol for the hell of it.
I was just suggesting it for joint lube. Maybe he can look into peps such as tb-500 and/or IGF1?
JoosemanTB would be solid, IGF would a serve a different purpose.. but still awesome
I've heard a lot of good things about the tb-500. Going to get some of that for my knees.
Joosemanworks wonders bro. only arguments are that of cancer etc. But then again, the same is said for IGF, HGH, steroids, hamburgers, bleach, tissues and just about everything we do lol. Predisposed if ya ask me.
Joosemanalthough it would do solid for your joints, don't touch deca on a primo cycle bro.. just my .02
Anonjust curious as to why ? Is there a greater chance of negative sides ?
Joosemannot at all, I know you run low dose deca always for your joints.. but I believe house is younger if I recall correctly (no offense lol)
if he's using mast/primo it means he's trying to have a nice lean, hard cut.. which wouldn't equate to heavy ass lifting
AnonOK got it, thanks. I was afraid I had overlooked an issue with my combo .
You know I was busy filling out an application for a room at the old folks home. Theyve got a nice nurse there that will bring me a blanket and a shot of deca test and primo ;)
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkWhat are you running?
AnonRight now Sust, NPP and primo ,
I was thinking bout running sus but its to up and down with all the esters in it.I wanted test e so it was a nice smooth cycle.To get full affect from sus ya gotta pin alot so you cant keep the dose low.
37 yrs young bro.haha and im looking for a nice hard,lean cut and not sure if deca would have messed that up.Just wanted to see what everyone thought.
Joosemandrop the deca bro.. if you're having tendon issues, terrible joints etc - look into TB-500 as mentioned above for the long hall. I use it year round and have been for almost 2 years now, long before it was public knowledge.
at what dose year round? Im getting ready to start it/ elbow tendon & shoulder joint problems. Im loading for 6 wks at 7.5mg (2.5mg MWF)
StevebNever even heard of TB-500
what your dose ew?I was running it 2mg ew but i seen people say thats good and seen some say it needed to be 10mg ew?
Ive been reading up on TB to try. I read 10mg is dose for small horse, 5mg was used for greyhounds. Human dose would be good at 7-8mg. I think that was for initial dose, not maintanence. some people have said that 5mg wk worked well for them though.