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First Cycle - Test E + Sarms

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Hello all! First time poster but been lurking a few months. Wanted to run my first cycle plan by some of the expert minds here to get their thoughts and criticism. Firstly here's my stats:

Age: 27
Height: 178cm (5'10")
Weight: 85kg (187lbs)
Bodyfat: 12-15%
Years training: 7 years on and off
Best lifts (1RM): High bar back squat 170kg, front squat 150kg, deadlift 195kg, push press 100kg, strict press 65kg

What I'm really looking to ask mostly is:

1) Does the addition of SARMS to this cycle seem ok? Should I wait until I've got a test only cycle under my belt before trying this or do you think it will be a sensible addition?

2) Should I run HCG right through cycle and PCT or just during the actual cycle?

3) Are there any tweaks you would make for someone looking mostly for strength gains over mass?

4) What supplements would be best to take on cycle (I normally take creatine monohydrate and multi-vitamin powder). This is the only area I haven't researched regarding cycles, but I assume it's somewhat of an afterthought as it isn't absolutely crucial.

So here's the cycle itself:

Weeks 1-15: Test E300 - 600mg/week (2 x 1ml shots each week)
Weeks 1-15: Aromasin (Exemestane) - 25mg per week (2 x 12.5mg tabs each week)
Weeks 3-15: HCG - 1000iu per week (2 x 500iu shots each week)
Weeks 3-15: LGD-4033 - 10mg per day (1 x 1ml drop each day)
Weeks 1-30: MK-677 - 25mg per day (1 x 1ml drop each day)
Nolva on hand just in case it's needed

PCT

2 weeks after last injection start Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Thanks all!

Jayzgainz's picture

I would lower your test down a bit. You can go down to 500 mg a week with 300 mg test. The half-life of aromasin is around 12 hours so taking it the way you have it written doesn't make much sense. Like StairMaster says use your AI when your estrogen starts to become elevated this is found out through blood work and the side effects. I try to stay slightly oily but still horny. That seems to be a happy medium for me but always go by blood work. I don't think you really need HCG on this cycle but to each their own. I do think 1,000 IU is too much per week. I would also eliminate the sarms. Being your first cycle you don't know how the test will affect you if you have three other compounds in there and you start to feel off how will you know what to adjust start with one compound get your estrogen controlled then go from there and one thing at a time.

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pstewart27's picture

Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated advice.

To address some of the points made:

1) The reason why I picked Test E300 is because that was what was best source available, but I haven't purchased yet. Would you recommend that I look around for a 250 concentration or pin less frequently?

2) I'm hoping to be able to get bloodwork before/during/after, but haven't 100% certified this yet. Hopefully won't have to pay much for it but we'll see.

3) I decided to try MK-677 to help with sleep, recovery and joint health. I've heard great things about it and since it's a GH Secretagogue and not an actual SARM, it has little to no sides. I do like the idea of starting with just Test though so I can log how it affects me.

I'll probably hold off on the LGD-4033. I had read that it's good for strength gains and of course is good coupled with a test cycle. However I can happily wait until I've got one under my belt before doing that (adds to the financial aspect too!)

stairmaster's picture
  • Goals?
  • Test only is enough for 1st cycle.
  • Aro dose dependins on yours E2 level.
  • no Sarms needed
  • I'd start PCT earlier/7-10 days after last pin.
pstewart27's picture

Thanks for the reply. Goal is mainly to add strength but wouldn’t be opposed to some mass, and I’m sure it will come. Going to be eating to gain a bit anyway so naturally I’ll grow.

As I said I’m looking into bloods right now, so will have to check up on that. Planing this cycle for later in 2018 anyway so no rush to get this stuff done.

MegaTRON13's picture

Slow down bro, keep it simple. 250mg a week for your first cycle is plenty. You don’t need sarms or high doses. If you’re diet is dialed in and you have a good workout regimen, you’ll have great gains.