Thoughts on “SARMs” during PCT
Hi guys, hope everyone is doing well today!
As a preface to this question, I’m yet to embark upon a journey of using AAS or any PED’s, as I’m trying to do what is recommended first - doing my homework!
Just chiming in with a question about using non sex hormone based “SARMs” (I describe it this way because I know they’re not actually SARMs but are bundled into that category) during PCT. Specifically I’m referring to MK677 (ibutamoren) and GW501516 (cardarine).
From what I understand, using compounds which won’t cause further suppression or affect the HPTA during PCT can be useful in terms of managing energy levels, cortisol, recovery etc, but I’d be interested to hear any opinions on the subject and perhaps anecdotal evidence from experience.
Also if anyone knows of any other substances (that could be used to a similar effect) to research then please let me know as this stuff fascinates me.
Thanks!
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They will not improve PCT.
However, if blood tests were done to prove the use of MK677 kept both GH and IGF-1 high in the presence of clomid therapy, I would be very interested.
Cardarine though... my poor little womb wouldn't take it....
I wouldn’t touch that shit as if probably be a ‘good’ responder to it.. unlike most other drugs.
You wouldn’t want to run it for years.
Nah definitely not, no way. Im 42 and I dont want to develop cancer from nonsense I get involved in now, in my 60's.
Bad enough I am an ex-smoker!
Neither one of those is a sarm.
One is a ghrelin mimetic and one is a ppar agonist.
You’ll be fine. Neither is remotely androgenic.
Real sarms would cause issues with recovery.
Edit: my only caveat would be I hope you’ve done your research on these drugs before you consider using them. I know you haven’t because if you had you wouldn’t be asking this question.
Yes, if you re-read my post you’ll see I already know they aren’t actually SARMs. And I have researched both of these chemicals in pretty great detail, not sure what gave you the impression I hadn’t. I simply wanted to hear people’s thoughts/experiences using them in PCT. Appreciate the input anyway
A pct is meant for the body to recover as much as possible...no logical reason to add anything unnecessary to it that could possibly muddy things up. You should either come off or not. Taking 3 or 4 or 5 compounds is not bridging thats called staying on. If you keep up diet and training you will not "piss away your gains". Coming off is part of the game. Keep it simple and do it right or dont do it at all.
The whole point of a PCT is to recover naturally, if you take a bunch of other drugs to "recover" you are not recovering. Not saying clomid and nolva have no place in recovery because they do, but im talking ostarine, mk677, and the other boosters. If you try and speed up recovery too much, you may not recover or after you get off the pct drugs you might take a serious drop.
Lets use an engine for example, How many times do you think you can put Nitrous in your motor before you break it or break other parts?
Yes that analogy makes sense to me. I hadn’t considered using these chemicals with a view to increasing recovery rate, but rather as a way of maintaining performance during recovery, and perhaps offsetting some of the psychological factors from coming off of exogenous test. Thanks for your input.
Yea man I am very adamant about bridging the gap between cycles, all that hard work on cycle I refuse to just piss it all away.
Clomid and novla do there job , But I have Used Ostarine twice now in between cycles.
There is a boost in endurance and appetite, it has a noticeable effect on maintaining gains , it will not exactly add to your gains but it helps keep you from crashing. Keep the dose around 20mg or 30mg a day.
And it will have you taking dumps 3 or 4 times a day.
who in the hell neg me.
Ostarine is an absolutely manageable compound in between cycles, as long as you run it moderately.
It is in know way messing up recovery. Sarms are relatively new compounds just because there not widely excepted like clomid and nolva, dont knock it until you try it damn.
Here read this maybe you will get off my dick https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/recommended-d...
Although I've not run it myself - all of the reviews I've seen in regards to MK677 have said the lethargy from it is horrendous so I can't imagine it being great to run during PCT when things are hard work enough as it is running on very low test levels - if any at first.
This is something I hadn’t considered too much. I had heard some people suffered with it temporarily but that it could be offset by dosing later in the day or had improved with time. Appreciate your input.
It’s not so bad. Individual dependent. I like it but it does make you sleepy.