First cycle question about routine (olympic lifting) and pct
Hey, i have been doing olympic lifting for a year, but recently came back from 10 weeks travelling and am trying to get back to where i was. I also have a knee issue that i was hoping the steroids could help me with,
Olympic lifting isnt exactly good for getting a good body, but if i am taking steroids i would like to get a good physique, so my question is how do you think olympic lifting works with steroids, will i get big from doing it or will i need to supplement it with bodybuilding exercises?
My routine atm is 4 days a week, 3 days doing high bar back squats, 1 day front squat, then snatch then cleans and then a form of pull (kinda like a deadlift) every session
But there is no real arm or chest work involved.
My other question is, im taking half a tablet of arimixed EOD do i need to do pct if im taking AI during my cycle?
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You guys gotta remember theres exceptions to the rule of 15% bf. If someones goal is bb and there 30% bf then they shouldn't use steroids because it reflects poor diet or they havent been training very long. But to someone who's a powerlifter or oylmpic weightlifter its alot different. This guy dropping down to 15% bf could cost him 30% of his strength. Same with athletes. You think it would be beneficial for a 350lb nose tackle at 25% bf to drop to 15? Fuck no he needs that weight regardless of if its nice weight or not.
I covered that below...however for his weight his lifts are not impressive if he were lifting more and was tapped out I'd say maybe...but that's why I said this post originally left me with a ton of questions but at the end of the day you have young man who likes to lift but has most likely not tapped out his natty potential and is 30% bf as stated below there are exceptions as we both mentioned however imho I do not feel this is one of those cases
You have to post your stats, if you want some answers.
I'm 5'11 and about 200lbs about 30% bf
I wasnt sure it was relevent, i was just asking generally about steroids and olympic lifting as a means of getting big or if its considered a waste of a cycle to not do bodybuilding routines.
Add these stats and your age to your profile.
No steroids brotha 30% bf? And asking I'd you run an ai does that mean no pct? Do more reasearch brotha I'm not trying to be mean but you're miles away from being able to run a cycle and we need tour age asap brotha no help without it
If you were to drop down to 15% bf which is a decent not great but decent bf you'd only be 170lbs at 5'11" at 10% you'd be 160lbs and that's not accounting for other weight loses just the fat...so as a fit guy you'd be tiny...which means way more time at the gym
I'm curious but if he isn't looking for a bodybuilding physique and just wants strength does he still have to get his bf% that low? Most power lifters never have the BB physique, they have a lot of weight and strength behind them and that's all they really look for in cycles..I'm just asking cause Ok im clueless about the topic.
Wise question my brotha...as stated here in the past there are exceptions to every rule bf included...however the OP has left out valuable info starting with age and also I'm very unclear and to whether he's trying to be an olympic lifter or is just doing olympic lifting as a hobby...never the less 30% is still very high and like I always say 30% is usually 35%+ everyone seems to underestimate bf...I'd like to see a pic, know his age, and know his best lifts
Hey, i probably overestimated to be fair, as i was aware people do under estimate, ive done lots of strength based routines before but never body building. I was taking the steroids for help with knee, strength increase but id also like to get a leaner and more defined physique.
Im not sure of my bf, as i dont compete in oly lifting its just i enjoy doing it and have my own home gym as well as a former world champion coach. before my break i was snatching over 90kgs and clean and jerking over 110kg.
I have worked out for years doing various things. Im 28, and i dont see why i shouldnt be allowed to take steroids. its not like i just started lifting. I was looking this cycle to kick start me back into olympic lifting and get my lifts back up and hopefully a bit more of a better physique.
I was just wondering if id have to add in body building stuff or would oly lifting be ebough.
Also i would appreciate an answer to my question because i currently am using test -e 400mg a week and arimidex eod
My apologies as stated yes you must still run a full pct this worries me that you didn't know this...not being mean brotha just basic research...and second will olympic lifting help get you big...sure it'll build muscle it depends on which lifts etc etc you can also Olympic lift without bodybuilding. ..but at the end of the day i stand by my statement I'd drop some bf do a little more research and also even after a 10week vacation muscle memory should bring your lifts right back...also I don't think for your weight you're anywhere near your full natty potential especially seeing as it looks like you're saying your lifts have decreased recently...just food for thought
And to answer your other question you can run steroids...you can also eat a cactus...but when you asked questions like do I have to run a pct if I run an ai during cycle I personally don't think you're ready yet...spend a few months doing research brotha...I also still say at 30% bf you're asking for trouble...at least do bloods often at that bf% where I believe irongame and others are misreading this one is your post almost makes it sound like you're a competitive oly lifter which isn't true...you're a guy who likes to do olympic lifts for fitness...i personally dont see a powerlifter...even with all that said you can run gear even if to only improve your lifts...however as stated you seem to lack research and again bf imho is too high you're asking for sides...just my opinion though
In my opinion bro if you are looking for a leaner physique and not for strictly strength gains then treadinontren is correct about bringing down ur bf % before you were to run a cycle..but since u already began I guess it doesnt matter much..but just to help ya out a little make sure you hit a lot of cardio and get bur diet in check if you want to get that bf down..but good luck to ya
Hey thanks, i do appreciate the replies. I probably did over estimate my body fat as stated before, my issue is i carry a lot of far on my upper body and none on lower so its hard to gauge without calipers and as im not long home from travelling i dont have that done yet.
I agree as stated above my lifts are not awesome for weight, but as i said ive only been doing oly lifting a while and have been making good improvements before my break. I did other training before, i was into mma for a while where i did a lot of high rep circut stuff, then went to more of a bodybuilding style but didnt enjoy it as i found it boring and thats when i moved to oly lifting and i love that, as it seems to keep me interested more.
I probably should have lost more bodyfat as you stated, but i really just wanted to kick start my progress and get back into it again and i figured the steroids will help with the fat loss.
In regards to the pct all the beginner cycles i read said that you can either take just test during the cycle and nova and clomid for pct but i saw another that just stated taken arimadex during the cycle with no pct.
Thats what i wasnt sure about and looking clarification on.
Yup brotha Im not mad at you or trying to start anything I'm just saying you still seem a little lost on AIs and PCT and at that BF% its really really important to have that down to a T...you should get bloods just to be safe...and also so you'll know whether to adjust the AI if needed..
Getting bloods done does not sound like a smart idea considering im already using test, i mean its not something i want the doctor to know
Again brother this is why I'm hesitant to give advice are you in the states? If so quick research will show you how to get bloods anonymously and again at your bf and without knowing if your ai is good I'd definitely want them. ..its your health brotha just trying to look out for you
No mate not in the US. Look id appreciate any advice, im going to take the stuff regardless because ive bought it and i need to look as good as possible in 8 weeks. So my decision is made, so id be thankfull for any advice.
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