posted Sun, 05/17/2015 - 08:13
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-2 First cycle failed due to bunk gear, now what?
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CENSORED Test E 275mg
Arimidex
Test E @ 550mg (distributed @ 275mg x2 times/week (Monday/Thursday)) 1-12 Weeks
Arimidex 0.25mg E3D 1-12 Weeks
PCT 14 days after
Week 14 - 18
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
I am on week 9 and I am certain that the test e is fake, close to no gains and I have been eating clean and at a surplus of my TDEE, very disappointing as I had to save up the money for the gear as well...
What is the precedure now? I will surely not use my PCT, as I have already wasted my AI and the nolva and clomid are both pharma so it would just be wasting more money...
Should I go ahead and purchase new gear, did any of you have problems like mine during their first cycle, I am heavily dissapointed in the lab...
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Now go home and find a good doctor for yourself .
CarlFitMy bloods came good after cruising, thanks
Your answer prove what we meant in this forum .after cruising ? This is not a good sign bro . God help you in the future .
CarlFitJust a longer pct
What a shame. Appears this lad is out buying and reviewing gear......
RustyhookerSo he went full hardhead?
CarlFitHey mate I'm now 20 years old and I'm currently running test, most sites say wait till you are 21 but I don't think a few months isngonna make such an big difference
You're also using tren, T3. You're running caber according your review. If you're just running test, why are you running caber? I've read your review. Either your review is a lie, running test only is a lie or you're an idiot using caber for no reason.
You wasted a lot of my time fella telling me you'll hold off on gear etc. so I helped you. The sad thing is it's guys like you doing this that stop me bothering. I'd have more respect for you if you at least told the truth.
CarlFitI haven't touched t3 yet, I did ran tren my first cycle and had to stop it and use caber to stop lactating, I'm not lying on anything bro, I'm cruising on test now that's what I meant
"Cruising on test" at 20 years old. So you run tren, now you're cruising. You learnt absolutely nothing here did you?
I should send you a bill for my wasted time.
CarlFitDude I'm trying to be nice, I have decided to opt to stay on for life, why are you bashing me for my decisions, I have chosen this path, remember we are all humans and I know what I want from my life, do you enjoy putting others down?
I invested a lot of time into you and you throw it back in my face without any respect. You make whatever choices you like, poor or not. Just don't waste peoples time.
"Putting others down"
Where's that then? I haven't put you down, you've made yourself look stupid without any help.
Do yourself a favour, if you're going to respond again, (probably better you don't), don't make any more smart arse comments like you just have.
CarlFitI never said you didn't help me, I still use some of your work out routines and nutritional tips, well I also would like to let you know I'm competing in 4 months, in the men's physique category, not going to mention where and which especificlly but it's quite big and I have a shot at a pro career maybe, just the path I have chosen that's all, I'm not trying to be smart
I'm going to pretend I didn't read your offensive comment in the Gymchemist SI and wish you good luck for your show.
CarlFitWhy did I get marked as a troll when I was never trolling anyone, is that not admin abuse?
You'll have to take that up with a mod not me.
CarlFitThank you will let you know how it goes if you are interested
You know what you should have done here? If you'd have sent me a PM and said "thanks for your help but I'm going to run gear, that's my choice" I wouldn't have agreed with you, but I would have wished you all the best. Just be a bit more respectful of people's time, reading you're using tren etc after investing a fair few hours in year wasn't a nice thing to see.
Sad story reading all of this. It does happen though and your and others best intentions and time go to waste. Respect to you bro for doing what you do.
CarlFitFair enough I see your point, I am thankful for your help, and I still do those huge volume workouts because of you. I just knew posting here would not be a good idea, I have a coach who is preparing me for the show and he is the one who manages my dosages etc of course apart from that I am doing research on my own but I do trust him because he is a competitive bodybuilder himself and he said I got a promising career if I start young, I just have a passion for it and it's more than just a hobby but yes I should have let you known before
Your coach is obviously a moron.
CarlFitWhy did you mark me as troll man
I'm just going to update you all.
This lad isn't the typical hard headed lad of his age. He's also built a pretty solid physique having reviewed pics. We're talking on PM, he's polite and respectful and very mature for his age. I've offered assistance, so I'll ask that we're supportive in "the right ways" for the time being.
Update number 2. Had a good dialogue with the op now. Pleased to say he is going to put the fear to one side for the time being. We're working on his diet and upping the intensity of his training. Realistically he doesn't need much help in either respect, he's got a potentially very good physique.
This here is a lesson to some of the clowns we get on here that dive in, don't listen and are disrespectful to members. Let's be honest, he WILL take steroids, but at least at not such a young age. By conducting himself in a mature manner and genuinely learning about nutrition and training, this lad has built himself a decent base. By the time in finished with him he'll be a beast ready to be honed to perfection with sensible AAS used when the time is right.
If it is ok with the OP I d like to see what you are advising ... this way the whole community can have a look see maybe get an understanding and ask questions .. just a thought
We'll have the diet and a couple of training routines posted in here in the next few days. Certainly fine by me, can't imagine the op will mind???
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/ha...
CarlFitOf course I mind what the hell man? Are you trying to steal Cat from me??
I am kidding :p, of course I am more than happy for him to post it here, we can all benefit from it then as well
Grrrl can steal me, she's better looking than you. I'm shallow like that ;)
CarlFitOh damn she is actually a girl, Im impressed, not being sexist, just never really seen girls in forums
cat won me over with that car of his ....... lol... what'd ya think I call myself a grrl for the fun of it ?? ;-) I ll post up a pic for a few days
I knew it was the love wagon rather than my good looks.....
dont sell yourself short cat it was a combo.. ;-)
There are a few.
She's also one of our most knowledgable members. Anything you can learn from Grrl will be useful information for you.
thank you Cat ;-)
CarlFitThank you for your help Cat
He is definitely in good hands now. To bad more people aren't as receptive as him. A lot of these kids could go a long ways in there physique development of they would just listen and learn.
I upped him to set him at 0, he's in good hands now. Hopefully he sticks around, absorbs everything he can, and begins contributing to the community.
CarlFitI will this community seems to care more about me as compared to UK muscle where everyone just told me to go for it.
I have no doubt that you will do what's best for the boy. I started AAS very young as well and I suffered some unpleasant consequences from that decision. But, I didn't have a coach or anyone knowledgeable helping me at that time and I'm quite sure if I had someone like yourself teaching me the outcome would have been quite different.
Prior to claiming "bunk" let see some blood work.. an actual diet that you really followed .. training .. etc ... forget the fact that you are young and don't realize how much you can do natty and then save the cycles for later
RustyhookerGGlad your going to chat with catalyst. Listen close to him, dude knows his shit. Here's karma back for finally trying to listen.
Well, 3 days later, no pm from the op.
CarlFitHey bro
I was busy with final exams, is there any chat we can speak on rather than PM?
It would make my life easier, something like skype if its not too personal
RustyhookerPm bro. Skype isn't cool on a site with narcos or snitches. CCatalyst is cool but you're not known.
CarlFitAlready spoken with him. All sorted
Cheers
I don't pussy. neg. folk so here goes -2
I would be happy to talk about it in PM.
Lol
Take it as a blessing in disguise, cut your losses and stay natural until your old enough bro. Do you really wanna be jabbing your ass with a needle for the rest of your life because you didn't heed the warnings? You've got a lot of potential left to ride out before AAS should be considered, I didn't start aas until my squat was over 600lbs.