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FIRST CYCELE

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8 week cycle
500 mg/week
Sustanon 8 week cycle
5 weeks Sustanon organon 250
Last 3 week test ent 250
Hcg from second week, 500 ui week till the last inject
Pct 2 weeks after last injection
Pct : Nolva and clomid

it's good for first cycle ?

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

STATS AGE DIET AND TRAINING HISTORY.

CMON GUYS NOBODY GIVES CYCLE ADVICE IF THE POSTER CANT BE ASSED TO GIVE US SOMETHING TO WORK WITH.

PROPOSED CYCLE IS PURE BULLSHIT... HE COULD BE SIXTEEN OR HAVE BF% IN THE OBESE REGION.

DBG's picture

Shit...you're absolutely right...now I feel like a real idiot. Well, I am proven human once again!! Next time...I WON'T offer without the stats first.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

LOL its all cool brother... i know you guys are chomping at the bit to give good advice (which you do well) just trying to keep things running right then we dont lose our integrity bro! thats all... i thank you for your keeness to offer advice Smile

DBG's picture

Thanx...didn't wanna get the Vike's knickers in a twist is all!!! LMAO!!!! Mental picture of like that video dude posted of you on a tren cycle...

BULLS ON PARADE!!!!

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Hahahah yeah ED digs some funny shit up... helps take the edge off the day watchin some of his funny vidz lol.

DBG's picture

Yeah..let me clean this up for ya.

CYCLE #1: 12 weeks, pick a start date and calculate an end date/start of PCT

Weeks 1-12 : Test E or Cyp 500mg/wk.
Pin 2x/wk 250mg Mon. morning, Thurs night OR Sun. morning, Wed. night
Weeks 1-12 : Arimidex .25-.5mg EOD/E3D? adjust as necessary for sides
Weeks 2-14 : HCG 250iu 2x/wk

Start PCT two weeks after last pin, for cyp though you can start at about 2 weeks plus three more days as cyp tends to have a lil' longer half-life than test E.

fast48's picture

Keep adex going while on hcg.. It converts easily. Nice plan layout...hope he listens

fast48's picture

No. its not! See forums for first cycle. Smh

DBG's picture

First cycle?...sust not so much, too much pinning and a variety of esters is not the best idea. Stick to test E or Cyp at 500mg/wk for 12 weeks, and you only have to pin twice a week. You get used to pinning yourself and also your muscles are virgin territory, gotta get them used to the oil sitting in there. Plus 8 weeks is NOT enough time, especially for a first cycle...AND with sust and the frequency of pinning, like EOD or M,W,F at the least...what happens is that you get such a buildup of long estered test in your system that it can take ALOT longer than two weeks to leave your system before PCT.

Folks have run Sust on a first cycle before, but I think they come to realize that maybe it wasn't the best idea and think they should've stuck to test E. You'll get good results off test E alone your first cycle, it'll be a learning experience too and that's the whole point of this.

Run your HCG up until PCT, 500iu/wk is good. Other than that, PCT is good with clomid and nolva for four weeks is the standard:
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

fast48's picture

X2 !!! Sust has too many fluctuations for new folks.

DBG's picture

Yeah, sust is something for later on when you get some technique(pinning, cycles, cycle planning, etc.) and experience under your belt. Just going with a lil' something I know, which isn't a whole lot!!!

fast48's picture

You know a lot. You explain it well....i get grumpy n sheeeit. Lol

DBG's picture

Hey...explain something to me...what does "SMH" mean?...I don't know all this chat lingo.

fast48's picture

My kids had to tell me...lol. Just learned two Weeks ago. Shakin my head. Damn computer lingo. Lol

fast48's picture

Lots lately too......feel like a fan blade. Lol

DBG's picture

HAHA...okay, thank u!! I like it.

fast48's picture

Screen punch just costs money :( . Lol

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

lol ive busted 2 keyboards in last 6mths on here, lmao seems to work better.

fast48's picture

Some folks use canned air. But us older guys fixed the TV with a good wack!! Keyboards are no different. Haaaaaaa!!

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

lol... thats right bro... just my style too

DBG's picture

Yeah!!! I have felt like that too ALOT lately...I can't afford a new PC or phone!!...food, supps, and gear are sucking me DRY!!! LOL!!!

levelup's picture

why not just test e?

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