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first cutting cycle, second total cycle. Reviews?

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Hey guys, Im new to the forum and relatively new to gear, could use some comments and advice on my first cutting cycle. Here is the plan to date:

weeks 1-10: Deca 150mg/week for joints (Biotech) divided into 3 weekly injections MWF
weeks 1-12: Test Prop 300mg/week (Biotech) divided into 3 weekly injections MWF
weeks 4-12: HCG 500mg, divided into 2 weekly injections
weeks 8-12 Winny tabs 37.5 mg/day (British Dragon)
PCT:
weeks 1-2: 40mg nolvadex
weeks 2-4: 20 mg nolvadex

i will also be running blue top GH @ 5iu/day, with a 5 days on, 2 days off schedule, starting before this cycle, and continuing through and after PCT

Stats are as follows:

5"10
190 lbs
maybe 10-11% body fat (been a little while since i checked it)
clean diet

first cycle was a 12 weeker also, 500 mg Test E/week, 50 mg/day DBol kicker, hcg and nolva same as above

any comments or advice from some veterans would be well appreciated, thanks alot guys

Jonny Jitsu's picture

Problem is my guy doesn't get NPP. That was the original plan but I guess it's deca or nothing in terms of nandrolone and I need something for joints. I have a couple grappling tournaments coming up and joint pain would really slow me down. Especially since I'm not sure how I'll react to the winny yet. Recovery seemed pretty smooth last time but there were no nandrolones so maybe clomid is a good idea this time around

Jonny Jitsu's picture

never used it before and havent started yet, the idea was to get do some spot injections to get rid of problem areas and maybe tighten some loose skin, i was 260 or so as a teenager, all fat, never really tightened up 100%. I already have the GH but did not start it yet. U think save it for bulking?

killinit88's picture

Have you already been taking the HGH? If not its pointless, wont even be in affect during your cycle.

Jonny Jitsu's picture

why wouldnt it be in effect? ive never heard of that before

HllwdBdBoy's picture

it takes months for GH to take (noticable) effect bro... I started in Feb to have it properly ramped for my May cycle. So (IMO) you are much to uninformed to even be considering implementing GH into your cycle... Slow your roll, playa!

...and pick an ester... why prop for 12 wks if you are running deca? either test e/deca OR prop/npp. If you are going 12wks I'd suggest test/deca (not to mention for a second cycle I don't think you fully understand what goes into multi-pinning)

...and compounds are a strong 3rd in reaching goals after diet and training but in the AAS world DECA is not considered a cutting compound

I'd say back to research my man

killinit88's picture

^^^ Thats why, and if you never heard of GH not taking affect till that long, then you have not done YEARS of research sorry.....

Jonny Jitsu's picture

If you had read my response before commenting on it you would know that I was told AAS would accelerate the effects of GH.

Jonny Jitsu's picture

I have done an extensive amount of research, years really before even deciding to use gear. The reason for Deca is joints, I am a grappler and cannot afford to get slowed down by achey joints. NPP was Plan A but unfortunately I dont have access to it, and i wanted to avoid the test E due to water retention. I realize deca is not a cutting compound however i understand it can be used as such at low doses and with caloric deficit. I figured that the gear would accelerate the gh effects but I guess not. Maybe start pct and run through into next cycle? next one in december, gonna be a bulker, not sure on which compounds yet. Thanks for your input guys

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Don't have access to npp? don't you know where you are? ((LOL))

Jonny Jitsu's picture

lol, yeah i guess your right on that one

jpal's picture

Have you ever ran gh before