Upcoming cycle
Hey guys Im new to this board, not very new to gear. Just wanted to post this upcoming cycle and open it up for criticism and suggestions. This will be my fifth cycle. Current stats are 195lbs, 14% bodyfat. before anyone says anything about 4 cycles under my belt and only 195 let me say that i train brazilian jiu jitsu pretty heavily and I have a hard time keeping the muscle on between cycles. Former fat kid, dropped down to 160 ish and working my way back up but with muscle instead of fat lol.
Ok so here goes.
1-4 Test prop 100mg EOD
1-6 Dbol 50mg per day
1-12 EQ 600mg per week
1-14 Test E 750 mg per week
10-16 Var 50mg per day
17-21 Nolva 40/40/20/20
debating running hcg 500mg/week from week 8-16. any thoughts?
I have run hcg for all of my previous cycles and recovered well but I was running Tren on 2 of them so I figured I def needed it. Not too sure for this one. maybe yes considering the length.
I have liquidex on hand in case i need it. Also running liver support supps.
My Goal is to gain mass with minimal fat gain. Im prepared for the initial bloat with the dbol kickstart, but after that I wanted to keep it mean and lean with var at the end to solidify a little.
Open to comments, questions, criticisms.
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what would you guys think to adding some IGF LR3 to the cycle? I have 2mgs lying around, i could use during the cycle or during pct. Any thoughts guys? I have never used it before but Im curious. Been doing research for awhile.
SDM has made some good points. Have you already bought all your gear? The reason I ask is if you don't want to run such a long cycle then instead of Boldenone Undecylenate, you could get Boldenone Cypionate. I wouldn't run Dbol and Test Prop at the beginning. 2 kickers are a little redundant. If you have your heart set on the Var I would stick with that. Maybe adjust your cycle to look something like.
Weeks 1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-14 Test E or Cyp 500mg
Weeks 1-14 Bold Cyp 600mg
Weeks 8-14 Anavar 50mg ED
Your pct needs to have Clomid in it as well.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
I'm guessing liquidex is Liquid Adex?
What's your diet and training looking like while running this? I did MMA for a while so I know there's a shit load of cardio in there. EQ will be good for that cause it increases red blood cell count. Just be sure to monitor your blood pressure. Hawthorne Berry will help with that.
yes liquidex is liquid adex. I just bought some clomid So i will run that with the nolva, thanks! all gear is in hand already yes, but I didnt even know they made bold cyp? I saw bold ace on one of the sources here but I have done 12 weekers with shots EOD and it got old real fast lol. What do you think about throwing in some IGF LR3 that i have sitting around? during cycle or during PCT? Ive heard both protocols are very effective, any experience with that?
*Unfortunately, I'm not very savey in the peptide area. I believe the best person to talk about that with is Levelup or iFit.
AnonI'm digging this one right here! I personally needed more EQ than 600 but homie should start low and learn his body first before going any higher. Looks slick playa.
Oh and like I always recommend add Aromasin to the PCT. Especially with the liquidex(adex) being his choice of AI.
Boom! Jitsu, if you do incorporate Aromasin into your pct you need to adjust your Nolva dosage down to 20/20/10/10. The thing about Aromasin (Which I prefer and recommend as an AI) is you can prevent and estro rebound. Aromasin is a suicide AI as oppose to Adex.
Edit: Aromasin will be 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25.
Have you considered running Clomid along side novla in your PCT? The stuff is cheap and will ease recovery.
100/100/50/50 is a good dose.
hadnt thought about it. i have ran clomid and nolva together and nolva alone. never noticed the difference but for a longer cycle like this one, maybe that would be a good idea
In principle I like the test / EQ idea, but not keen on the dbol here, (contradicts the lean gains of EQ IMO). Also need to run EQ longer, (16-18wks), and I'd lower the test dose to 500-600mg/wk to get a leaner, drier finish with the var. prop kicker looks ok, could up to 150mg eod if you like. So:
1-4 150mg test prop eod
1-16 600mg EQ / wk
1-19 600mg test e/c / wk
14-19 50mg var ed
Thats a long cycle no? I have never run that long before but its tempting lol! If i did run that long then I would def need hcg right?
Yes mate. EQ doesn't really get rocking until 8-10weeks, hence the longer cycle. If you want to run something shorter, let's lose the EQ and look at other ideas.