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Finalized 8th cycle lean bulk

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Now what im gonna post is going to look like a pure mass bulker but i beilive its your diet that dictates lean vs bulky gains not the compounds. I will simply control water and bloat with adex and lower sodium in my diet.
Stats: 31 years old, 5"10, 232lbs, 10% bodyfat will get down to 7-8 before cycle.
Goals: gain 6-10lbs of muscle while maintaining 8% bodyfat or worse case 10% then last 4 weeks do quick cut.
Cycle:
Week 1-8: test cyp 500mg
Week 8-16: test cyp 750mg
Week 1-8 dbol 40mg ed (yes 8 weeks i have got my liver tested 3 times at that dose/length)
Week 12-18 Tbol 80mg everyday

** NOW if i cant manage to stay at 8% bodyfat i will do this
Week 1-8: test cyp 500mg
Week 8-16: test cyp 750mg
Week 1-8: dbol 40mg
Week 12-18 tbol
**Week 14-18 (cut starts if i hit 10%bodyfat to quickly drop down to 8)
**Week 14-18: tren ace 100mg ed
**Week 14-18 mast p 150mg ed
**Week 14-18 winny 50mg ed

Rawman's picture

Just came across some money, got a raise:D pumped new cycle plan:
Week 1-12: primo 800mg
Week 1-12: test e 600mg
Week 1-6:tbol 60mg ed or low dose dbol 30mg

Roid Noid's picture

thats a bad idea. not a good cycle at all.

Rawman's picture

Whys that?

Roid Noid's picture

I dont really feel like telling all about primo, spend a couple days doing your own research, or just run it what ever suits you!

Roid Noid's picture

what other compounds have you used?

Rawman's picture

Test, mast,tren,winny,var,dbol,tbol,

Roid Noid's picture

are you set on this cycle? if not ill propose something similar but that would be better. what is your purpose for each of these compounds?

Rawman's picture

No brother im not set on it at all, go ahead i would love to hear your cycle layout

Roid Noid's picture

later today when I have some time

Rawman's picture

Alright perfect, appreciate it!

Roid Noid's picture

for your goals I would run
t-bol 1-6 you can go 8 if you want but it wont be necessary
test 1-16 500mg/w
EQ 1-14 800mg/w
mast-p 12-16 500mg/w

that should set you off pretty nicely, its a good dry lean bulk. You really shouldnt run all the orals, especially at the end of the cycle, its a motherfucker when you come off cycle and that oral weight is lost, plays hell on your mind and will make you wanna stay on. bulking orals should be ran at the beginning of a cycle so you have a chance to solidify those gains. also rather then using such a high dose of test it would be best to run a second compound and cut that dose in half. stick to something like this dont try running that primo that you got posted up there that is a mess and you will get better results from this.

Carlos Danger's picture

That looks perrrdy!

Carlos Danger's picture

If ur going to run a cycle 18 wks then make it simple. Test/EQ and if u must run an oral make it a leaner oral like Var or Tbol. Both attract lesser amounts of water. Test EQ is a great combo especially when run for longer periods of time. U won't need to change compounds to get all of the goals you have listed. Test Cyp for 16 wks EQ for 14 and run the Tbol for 5-6 wks or Var for 6 wks at the end of cycle for a nice hardening effect. If u really want lean at the end then drop the Test Cyp and EQ @ 14 weeks and run prop from wks 15-18. IMO I'd keep this cycle as simple as possible.

Rawman's picture

How are gains with eq? I hear from alot of pll it justhelps appetite and vascularity and i dnt need eithier of those really

Carlos Danger's picture

I ran 24 weeks of EQ last cycle. First 16 were @ 600 mg wk. I leaned out and mixed with my diet I dropped some good chunks of weight. Weeks 17-24 I bumped it to 900mg wk and that's when I added mass. Those last weeks at a higher dose was awesome. I was hungry all the time but I always am. It was how my gains looked that I loved. Waterless! Lean and pure. I've been chilling for almost 2 months and I haven't lost a single pound or inches anywhere. The gains are almost permanent bro. Vascularity is always needed bro:-) Who doesnt want more veins? Can we ever really have enough?

HllwdBdBoy's picture

You are right that diet dictates... You do not need all of those compounds. Cycle smart bro

Rawman's picture

The first option is 3 compounds, what would you reccomend?

killinit88's picture

Why are upping dosage of test eight weeks in? Like v said, a lot of oral usage there.

Rawman's picture

Platue, again i always get liver tested read below paragraph:)

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Hope it works man but its nothing i would run... too much test and d/bol t/bol no way bro but if thats your plan of choice so be it.

Rawman's picture

What would you suggest bro? Its the compounds im familiar and have gotten good results with thats why i choose them, i have not tried 1-test cyp, eq, and i dnt have funds for primo so not sure what elsei can really do here. It is oral heavy but like i said i always do bloodwork and its always been fine without any liver support. Honestly its highly exagreated the toxicity mainly because oral only suck so its just another reason to give to those idiots who wanna run dbol only lol. But please bro help me set up a cycle you think can yeild hood results according to my goal above, but explain why you also chose the compiunds you did thanks;) if i do go through with it i would also want some diet help which i will gladly pay for, i dnt wanna grt over 10% bf again lol

Catalyst's picture

Got to agree here, oral heavy for me.

Good luck with the cycle mate.