Doseage question for 1st Cycle
First, I want to thank everyone who offered advice and pointed me in the right direction so I don't do something stupid. I am still doing research on my first cycle. Per a suggestion, I read the How to run a cycle. and found the following example as a first cycle. I am considering doing this next summer. After I find a place that will do all the Pre, during and Post blood work.
My question is about the Test E. I found a place the that sells 500mg Test E and 250mg Test E. Is it best to do the 250mg @ 1ml or the 500mg @ 1/2 ml? What are the pro and cons? I didn't find anything on this. Thank you
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per d
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Way to much ai for a start.
The only one difference between 500mg/ml and 250mg/ml it's a dosage precision if you're using for example 2ml syringe you can shot +/- maybe 2-3% in smaller dosages per ml your dosage is more precise (its a very small advantage I think) but in higher dosages you must to inject smaller amount of oil so it's more comfortable for your glutea (or another place where you're making shots).
Don't "bury the grounds" about AI, without blood test you can lower your estros too much - it's not good bro. Watch your nipples, do blood tests and train hard
IMHO 500mg/week it's too much for first cycle. Look at cycles on test prop, people generally pins 75 or 100mg e2d it gives 262-350mg/week. You should try 250/week and bump dosage after couple weeks if it's too small.
Has nothing to do with precise dosing. The difference between the two is that 500mg/ml will likely leave you unable to walk. it for sure isn't going to be more comfortable injecting less oil with 500mg/ml. 500mg/ml is for advanced users who are blending with other compounds to help reduce oil volume..
Also you can't compare weekly doses of prop to test e. 100mg EOD of prop is going to be alot more potent than 250mg/wk of test e.
"Also you can't compare weekly doses of prop to test e. 100mg EOD of prop is going to be alot more potent than 250mg/wk of test e."
Dunno why bro, test is test it's just ester difference - time of releasing hormone into blood. From scientific point of view ofc.
Oh dear - 'Test is test' One of the most Ignorant sayings on here, no wonder you are already on -4. So in your mind 250mg of suspension is the same as 250mg of Test E.......Muppett
RustyhookerYour ignorance is astounding. You dont even know the chemstry of chems and strength. Suggest you read a while
Run the dosages through a steroid calculator and you will see there is a huge difference in the total daily release amounts of test once they have reached steady state levels. Running a cycle of prop at 100mg EOD is going to increase average serum test levels much more than a cycle of 250mg/wk of test e.
This couldn’t be more true. I challenge you to do some research on it & you may be surprised
Here’s a good place to start
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/test-is-not-t...
You need to do more research before you open your mouth.
Prop is known for its PIP, Test E is not.
If your getting PIP from Test E, it is something in the brew.
Boom^^^
@giardap im glad somebody can shoot it straight! i remember my first beer. lol
If you didn't find anything it is because you didn't look.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/the-kmcs-pif-pay-it-fo...
My advice to you is try the 500mg/ml test e, it gives everyone else PIP, but you probably think you're different from every one else. After the PIP sets in, you can write in Rusty's PIP thread about how your PIP was different.
How do you know how much anastrozole you need before drawing bloods during the cycle? That's very individual, not just concerning dosage, but whether you'll even need it. At 500 mgs of test, I would say most guys do not need an AI and using one may just be putting unnecessary stress on your liver and might even cause low E2 symptoms. Be careful. This will take some dialing in. Training programs can be cookie cutter. Diets can be cookie cutter. Cycles, however, are not "plug and play." Getting bloods and adjusting as needed is paramount, and I hope you're very attuned to your body.
+1 mate! I myself never run a AI on cycle as my e2 has never got out of control! What alot of guys don't realise is that e2 is essential for building muscle! I see so many guys running ais and killing their e2 from the off! Unless your suffering any sides of you know you are crazy sensitive to estrogen an ai isn't necessarily needed but always be sure to keep on hand just in case
You’d be crippled as fuck if you got that 500mg/ml test....
Dude, I got 500 mg/ml test for my first cycle because I didn't know any better. It was fucking miserable. Worst thing was, I battled through it the whole 12 weeks because I just thought that's what PIP was. I kept thinking to myself, these guys that run cycles are fucking savage beasts to be able to deal with this shit all the time.
Hahahah holy shit, you savage beast!
I'd say drop the body fat below 15% if you want to see decent results. It wouldn't harm to add in some clomid for your PCT this will help speed up the recovery process run along nolvadex. Also the anastrozole doesn't need to be taken so early on cycle! You will end up crashing your e2 levels before the test even kicks in! Without e2 there is no gains my friend
Wait a few weeks get your e2 levels checked and adjust accordingly.
basskiller89I did the same with Aromasin. I was running my first 500mg per week cycle and decided to start taking my AI week 2. I crashed E levels and laid in bed for 4 days until it came back up. You could always get bloods week 4 to see what’s going on with your E levels
You are not researching anything at all
You are grabbing BS cookie cutters and looking for a co-signer
Failing already
Truth ^^^^^^^
Boooom!