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-1 1st cycle help.

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Any thought on this cycle? it would be my first cycle. I am new to this and looking for advice. I work out 4-6 times a week and left heavy with cardio 2-3 time a week. I an 6'1: 205 about 18.5 body fat. I am looking at dropping fat but gaining lean muscle. I eat clean and increased my protein to 200gm a day. Please feel free to make recommendations . Thank you.

Deca 300mg a week (split 150mg on Monday and 150mg on Friday)
Sustanon 600mg a week (Split 300mg on Monday and 300mg on Friday)

PCT is Clomid for 2weeks at 50 Mg per day.

beach14's picture

I ran a cycle of test c at 200week with proviron and everything went well. My estro was a little high before the proviron so i split adex and went half a pill eod for just over a week and the results were less acne and lower estro. I added in 25mg of proviron at week 10 which may have hardened me up a little but kept my estro down and my free test up. My doctor could tell by my bloods that i added something but i kept quiet. However , without my diet what it was i would have had half of the results that i had. I carbed on cheat day with very little during the week. Next time im adding more carbs and more cardio. I really liked muscle egg with one scoop of casein before bed and 1 cup of muscle egg when i woke in the a.m. I gotta say that the results i had were great at this dosage 200mg week . Ill start up again soon but not without that DIET. Diet is 80% imo , i had abs with very very little cardio so that was a direct result of diet hence more cardio this time and probably great abs. One day maybe 2-3 runs from now ill graduate to a Tbol kicker , testc ,bold e , with prop taper and a hcg pct but thats not soon

RickRock1086's picture

Just a hint. Maybe irrelevant but try using 25 gauge needles for injection. They are easy, the oil flows ok & not as bad as 23 gauge. Hope this helps

Jayzgainz's picture

Just parroting what has already been said but as someone whos 1st cycle is still pretty fresh in their head . Stick to the basics, dont jump into the deep end 1st. You need to know how your body reacts to test 1st, learn to control your estro and sides with that. I'm a pretty hardheaded person and If I had listened to myself I probably would have started with something like this as well. I didnt and I'm glad I didnt. Take the advice of those that have done this already.

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GYM SUPPS's picture

Hello Sir,

We had similar posts before so I will just copy and paste from previous one to save my time.

GYM SUPPS 3 weeks ago
@Omer Khan

Hello Sir,

With all the respect to yourself and sharing your information and cycle details with us I do not want to disappoint you but you make an impression of a person that is looking to use AAS (maybe has been suggested by someone) to loose your body fat. It is a current myth that's been going around but unfortunately it is not that easy Sir, you can get away with much more as an enhanced athlete but it will not turn your 24% to 5% BF. More likely you will run your 12 weeks cycle to find out that no changes happened to your body or even if something did happen most probably you will not notice it under the layer of fat.I have seen it so many times. After noticing no difference to your body composition most probably your next cycle will consist of even more compounds and higher dosages and won't bring any results again. So you gonna keep going in circles creating damage to your body.
Now the right approach to this would be following, you look in to your nutrition and clean up your diet (get rid of the foods that are not needed for you body to function and keep the nutrients that needed to build the muscles). More likely you will need to monitor your carbohydrates intake closely. Alongside your diet resistance training with progressive overload method is required to build new muscles. When these two aspects are settled you may look into including some cardio in to your training program while monitoring your body composition and body fat levels. When you apply this approach you will start seeing the results and you might get to the point where AAS will not be necessary as you will be happy with your look.
And please understand that the body will react to AAS compounds completely differently when your BF levels are 20% and single number % for example.
I understand that you probably expected from us - eRoids community to make a suggestions and changes to your cycle but instead we are talking about diet and cardio. The only reason we do that because we see this on a daily basis and we all know AAS will not get you anywhere unless all the other aspects of this process are considered.
Now you have an option of just ignoring these comments and carry on with what you are doing or you make a notes of the comments below and it may change your life.

Hope this helps Sir.
Regards

IrishWOLFhound's picture

Don't use DECA for your first cycle and sustanon is a poor choice for a first cycle in my opinion , some people pin it ED or EOD and I don't think you'd want that for a first cycle , test e at 500mg a week would be a better chioice , just my opinion , others may disagree

stairmaster's picture

Learn and if you have enough knowledge make ONE topic with cycle, quests etc. but don't do every day a new topic with another cycle plan. This helps nobody.

Do what JARHEAD2 wrote below this comment, read the basics!

Torrock's picture

Thank you

JARHEAD2's picture

Yes sir.... do the right thing brother & you will thank yourself later

Cummin apart's picture

Way too much gear for first cycle, definitely not deca and I think you're still sustonon is too high!
Why not do a little more research and try a simple 500 mg a week test only cycle first to see how your body reacts?
Up your calories and when that stops producing results then go to gear, good luck bro

helloBrooklyn's picture

No more needlephobia? Cycle still sucks.

1174's picture

You should not use a 19nor for your first cycle. You need to research AI'S and PCT. If your stats are legit, you would be amazed at what a Test only cycle would do. However until you know what AI's are and why you need them, and have read all you can on Post Cycle Therapy, you should not pin anything.

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IrishMack's picture

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