posted Sat, 09/10/2011 - 20:50
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D-bol + var + Test E (first cycle)
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been planning on doing my first cycle for the past 6 months already but i keep holding off.
current stats
Age: 22yrs
Height: 5'9-10"
Weight: 180lbs
eat clean food only.
current gear: 20 Testovorin Depot vials, 200 scirrox anavar tabs, and 100 blue heart d-bol and 60tabs of BK pharm of nolva 10mg
test e 500mg/wk week 1-10
dbol 20-40mg ed week 1-4
var 40mg ed week 9-12
start nolva day after last var tab
any tips guys? thanks
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sgtstedankoI would prob order more var. Enough to double your dose, so you'd get 80-100mg ED, and you'd be much happier with the results. Really is night & day... Or you could save it for your next cycle...
MilKmAnWow really? Thats a lot of var hahah deff not a cheap cycle then. I probAbly will double up on my dose like you said. I'm also thinking of leaving the dbol out of my first cycle. For lct i got nolva but some ppl like to have clomid and nolva. Whats the deal with that? Shud i do that too?
sgtstedankoTotal cycles are never cheap dude, especially w/pct:) Especially w/var. I'm finding this out. If you're not doing dbol, which I personally wouldn't. I would take the var @50mg or more I honestly wouldn't include var at anything less than 80mg last 6-10 weeks. I like to try everything separate, just to see what works for me, and for me 80-120 VAR, is night and day over 50. Prob cause its fucking double, now that I think about it:) Honestly never done nolva, always clomid for pct. I read that they work very well together
sgtstedankoALSO GET SOME LIVER PROTECTION DUDE!!! Liv-52DS, Milk thistle, or Liver stabil, etc. Lots of water. The more you drink the less you retain. prob cause your pissing every two minutes. Vits C, D, E...
MilKmAnThatnks for looking out but i already got a lot of vitamins and minerals for the liver
lots of liv 25 and all other things. It was a good point memtioned about having the dbol as a boost later on for the var. I have a feeling im gonna be the hulk afterthis cycle.
Another q is do i need hcg for my balls?
sgtstedankoGood to know... You can't have too much liv protect. Be safe. Muscle comes and goes, but when your liver goes, well:) IMO. First cycle you absolutely don't need both. Test alone is great. But If I were you I would run at least 50mg var ED, prob 80mg, and test concurrently for 10 weeks, or at least var for the last six weeks. Being 22. Honestly, you're still growing a little until your 25 or so. I would save your dbol for you next cyle bro. Which could be something like 12 weeks of Test E 750mgs/wk (M,W,F), "EQ 600mgs/wk (M,W,F) optional" with the first 6weeks:50mgs/Dbol ED. Var has a great action on muscular aponeurosis, also very good at increasing skeletal muscle, and is especially good at collagen synth which to my knowledge D-bol is not. But I honestly haven't done anywhere near the research on dbol that I have for var. So please feel free to research the fuck out of it, I'm not gonna do it for you. All in all. For quick mass w/ a lot of water, I'd go with D-bol, or actually prob blow the fuck up w/A-50:) For a lean gain of QUALITY mass, with a very decent strength increase and knowing my bones ligaments and tendons will not suffer, and will probably actually strengthen, I will go with Var every single time... It is very expensive though, especially at required mg... As far as Hcg, look into into that one. I never have. If you're anything like I was, You reach HULK status after your third cycle:) Again this is just my opinion. Do your research, and decide what is best for you bro. Feel free to pm me... Good Luck ~ Have Fun ~ If you can't tell I like VAR; A lot:)
28savage28this guy knows what he is talking about, popping all them pills your gunna need mad water vitamins, and liver protection...only thing i dont agree with is cutting dbol, if you want maxed results, dbol will help kickstart your cycle, i made insane gains with test e and dbol so far, dbol definetly ups your strength, so when it comes time to take the var, your already gunna be strong and jacked, and the var will help you lean out and even still get stronger! good luck myh friend!
MilKmAnand btw i've been training for 5 years. i'm pretty well built and well defined. just trying to add more mass and strength