posted Thu, 03/27/2014 - 06:57
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I'm 5'6 170lbs with about 15% bf? I'm going on my 4th cycle.
I've always used Test Cyp and loved it. I'm adding bold cyp to the mix.
Use: 1-14wk Test Cyp twice a week at 250mgs/shot and I was thinking about doin the same with the Bold Cyp. Two questions: is that a good cycle without going too crazy and do I need and or what kind of pct should I take??
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Thx for the response gentlemen...I don't look that bad though. U can see that I still have shape..I haven't worked out in 6months so I'm getting back in it once again. I shed fast..and that's due to my diet. I fell off the wagon but still manage to eat clean more or less. I took a pct with my first cycle and it consisted off HCG but on my previous cycles I haven't used a pct which I know is a no no. Everyone sounds like my mom...lol.
My goal is to lean out more...I'm not a tall guy nor am I big. I might be off with my bf but all an all I want to lean out without using the harsher roids that have high toxicity levels. I figured the Bold Cyp isn't as harsh but not sure if I need pct after cycle. My cyp was at 500mg/wk and I never bloated much. Sligh bloat but nothing of concern so I figured I never needed a pct. what do u guys think??
Leaning out a little more can easily be done with just a proper diet. In the last 3 months I have lost 3.5%BF and gained over 6 pounds of lean mass just because of my diet, no AAS involved. Prove you can do that without AAS and then we will Know you have the committment and knowledge about diet to make a cycle worth trying.
Being your 4th cycle and not knowing proper PCT, I would say it's time to start over and do it right. Stick with test-c at 500 mgs a week, it's a good starting point, expect good gains. You can run it for 10,12 or 14 weeks. I suggest running it for 10 weeks and toss in some prop for the last two weeks so a total of 12 weeks, you can taper off with the prop and hit PCT earlier than waiting on the cypionate to clear out, and lock in those hard earned gains. Pct is standard protocol. Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. You don't need Bold right now, you should get the most you can out of the simple test cycles, before moving on. If you start high, then where are you going to go? Keep it simple and keep it safe.
I would recommend diet and training first. I also wouldn't recommend a Prop taper because I don't feel the OP fully understands AAS yet, let alone how to properly execute a Taper.
I agree, after taking another look and thinking it over, it maybe too much for him to handle. Plus pinning EOD for a beginner brings a higher risk of infection or some other unforeseen circumstance.
What you suggested was sound, but probably not in this case.
I agree, everything but the test-p taper.
I still feel he would be better served to re access his diet and training regimen.
I believe that diet is the foundation for training in as a whole, with or without the assistance of AAS. The foundation of bodybuilding is proper diet and training, AAS just assist us in utilizing those two base principals to their fullest potential.
This is my 4th cycle and only ran Test Cyp so I never thought I needed a pct.
Oh Boy! With no PCT's ever done, you better get some bloodwork done and make sure you haven't fried your HPTA before even thinking about running another cycle.
4th cycle and don't know what pct to run? What have you done before?
Stats are in profile Btw guys.
How many cycles have you run? Because when you're asking about PCT it's leads me to believe very few if any...
What is your diet like? Not dissing you but 170 at 15% BF after 4 cycles sounds like you could perfect the diet better. What is your goal for this cycle?