Cycle advice
I am 30 years old, 6'4" tall and weigh about 195. I do cardio and weight training and eat as healthy as I can with my busy lifestyle. I have dabbled with steroids a couple of times now but nothing very serious, did get some gains but didn't pay attention to pct very much. Now I am going to start this cycle, I have read read read on all kinds of stuff but this is the first time I have ever wrote and asked for help so please be easy and yes I am willing 100% to take anyones advice and take as much as I can from this forum with the most respect.
My cycle is going to consist of the following for ten weeks:
Week 1-4 D-Bol 30Mgs (3 pills of 10MGs spread out daily)
Week 1-10 Test E 250MGs twice weekly (Mon & Thurs)
Week 1-10 Deca 200MGs once weekly (Sat)
I am willing to take any advice on this cycle but my main concern is my pct. I have purchased and army of pct items. I have Arimidex, Nolvadex, Clomid, Letrozole and HCG.
I have read that you should take the arimidex throughout your cycle and take the nolva, clomid and hcg for the pct about 3 weeks after your cycle. I bought the Letro just from reading it is good to have on hand at all times.
Please can someone help me by looking at my cycle and putting together the weeks and dosages I should be using this stuff It would be greatly appreciated. And please ask if you have any questions I will answer to the best of my ability.
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Okay my head is gonna explode over this hcg mixing shit. I have never seen so many different ways to do this. And everyone that comments has a different way to do it. I need the been out of school and dumb as fuck routine.
I have 5000iu bottle and 20ml of water and a 10ml empty vial.
If I take one ml of water into the hcg and mix then put 9 more mls of water in the empty vial then take the hcg and put in the 9 ml vial of water I then have 10ml vial of hcg. Which is 500 iu per cc. So if I want 250 ius per injection then I should take 1/2 cc per injection.
This is how I'm simplifying it or am I looking to hard into this. Is this correct or am I way off.
have you ever felt side effects from nolva or clomid? what where they? just wondering cause ive ran some high doses and diffent feel shit, maybe I dont know what to look for! lol
Summed up all that article says is that Nolva is a far better anti estrogen than Clomid. Thats a given, reducing estrogen is not the purpose of taking clomid though. The purpose of clomid is to stimulate the pituitary to produce LH and FSH. I have to question the validity of that article, they say use hcg during pct and they even said to use Nolva during cycle as well as post cycle, sounds like bad advice to me! Very bad advice! Those two statements make me wonder who wrote the article. While it says nolva will "increase the responsiveness of LH", clomid will actually increase the "production" of LH. The article is correct in that nolva is a far better anti estrogen than clomid but thats neither here nor ther because its not taken as an anti estrogen. I guess to each his own but that article is questionable. JMO
Alright all good, I'll probably drop the deca and hang on to it for next time. I'm gonna take your advice and bump it up to 12 weeks. Still gonna take the D-bol in the beginning. Hcg throughout cycle and proper pct to follow.
Still have two weeks before I'm gonna start. But I'll keep you all posted and thanks for the advice. I'll check out those sites vette. Still kinda ignorant on hcg use.
Alright don't have a clue on how to properly mix my HCG. I have two vials of 5000 IU. Probably don't need two but went ahead and bought two. I have the water and the empty vials. But don't know any ratios. Went on youtube and everyvideo tells you something different and their all trying to loose weight with it, not what I'm doing.
I was wanting to take 250 ius twice a week how should I properly mix this stuff, and what size needles should I buy that work the best.
Use bac water to dilute. If you use 2mls bac water to each 5000iu vial then 0.1ml of the soution will give you the 250 ius that you require. Use 29 guage slin pins to inject. Dont store the diluted solution for too long as it may go of before you have used it.
I think your making a good decision here, its really important to run a standard test cycle, not just for sides but also how well you PCT. Deca will shut you down very hard and recovery for many is a bitch...As far as adex goes some people need it and some dont, but getting gyno sucks, im just getting over it right now. So start your adex dose off at .25mg/E3D if you start taking on unwanted water, wich you will from the D-bol but I mean like puffy face up your dose to EOD. On the flip side if you find that your nips dont get itchy no water retention then you can slowly drop your dose. One thing that wasnt mentioned yet that you should be aware of is caber or prami, when you do go to run the deca you need to run one of those with it.
Yes I have ran acoss those in my reading. I will start reading up on those and getting advice for the next time. I don't have to use deca at all I just though it would give me more mass with the other two compounds. But I know I have alot of learning to do. Ya that sounds good too about the adex, I will start out slow and just watch it all.
Thanks Noid.
Curious as to why there is no need for clomid? Nolva CAN NOT take its place or do what it does. Clomid stimulates the hypothalamus which stimulates the pituitary gland to release gonadotrophic hormones FSH and LH. FSH and LH stimulate the testes to produce more testosterone, thats how you get your natty back. Nolva alone supresses estrogen but WILL NOT help you get your natty back. The longer it takes to get your natty back the more of your gains you will loose. Normally I just state things as an opinion but this is indeed fact. Whats the science behind clomid not being necesary?
ALPHAI agree with 96. Your admitting it yourself that you don't have much experience. I recommend you look into this for your first cycle. Wk 1-12 test e 500mg(split twice a week) Wk 1-4 dbol 30-40mg daily (optional) Wk 14-18 nolva 40/40/20/20 Wk 14-18 clomid 50/50/50/50 *also get some arimidex and dose it at .25mg a day and raise accordingly. This cycle will allow you to see how your body reacts to these compounds, and you can set up future cycles based on your results from this cycle. Good luck bro
Your cycle looks pretty decent in my opinion, id only change it slightly. Personally Id run Deca at least 300mg, test should be run at 1.5 to 2 times the amount of Deca so Id knock the test up to 600mg but the 500mg you're doing would be ok too. Id also split the deca in two doses just like you're doing the test. Deca has a long half life but the more stable blood levels are the better in my opinion, its a matter of preferance.Id run the dbol for 5wks too but thats a personal decision for you to make also. As for the hcg DONT use it during pct, use it during your cycle at 500iu/wk(standard dosage) split in two doses of 250iu each. Dont use the Arimidex unless you start seeing signs of gyno such as itchy nipples or if you know you're prone to gyno from previous cycles. Arimidex can actually hinder gains so dont use it unless necessary. As for Letro you probably wont need it. Ive have no experience with Letro but Ive been told not to use it unless the Arimidex isnt working, its strong stuff. Keep it in your stash. Remember, just nolva and clomid for pct, no need for anything else. Standard procedure for pct is four weeks;
clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
HCG Info: http://www.steroidworld.com/forums/post-cycle-therapy/9123-hcg-during-cy...
Sounds good, I'll take a second look at my stuff. Looks like I just change a couple dosages and should be good. Thanks for the info man.