posted Sun, 11/06/2011 - 07:07
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cut stack- mixed or separate?
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Just wondering if it is better to buy the cut stack already pre-mixed (test, tren, mast) or should i buy each separately. Btw, I am an intermediate user, having done 3 cycles
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I agree that a blend is easier in the fact that there is less oil to pin, but I dont agree to it being better than individual compounds unless you have ran those compounds in the exact or close mg as the the blend. If you go blended your committed to that amount, and I personally like to be able to manipulate the doses if sides come about. Not many experienced AAS users run blended oils, and most will advise you against it...I will also say that the blend you are looking at is probably one of the worst, it is very well known that test and tren can create some pretty horrible sides, and many have found that running tren at a higher dose than test will elliviate those sides. Something you wont be able to do with the blend.
AnonRunning tren at a higher dose alleviates the sides? I thought it was running test at a higher dose? I've never gotten any sides beyond minor increase in sweating but just for future reference I want to know. I was going to run 300mg more of test per week on my next cycle.
I have read several logs of high tren low test to alleviate the tren sides. I know everybody says higher test for every cycle but its not always true. Do some searching for high tren low test cycles...But if you have run it before and didnt suffer sides then you will probably be OK, thats not everybody's story.
http://www.t-nation.com/searchResults.jsp?cx=016420786931182441572%3Aksw...
I just glanced at the first couple pages but there is some reading on such cycles.
AnonVery interesting, thanks for the info! Now Im going to spend the rest of the day reading about this lol.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI was actually following a log awhile back where the guy was running 1250mg/w tren and 100mg/w test, if you search around on that site you might find it.
i have heard more test to tren aswell. but i also heard as you are coming off to increase (actually continue to use test) the test so that you for a couple of weeks to lessen the crash.
this is true, most will use test for a longer duration than tren to lesson the crash.
AnonThe blends are great as Wood suggested. The downside is the higher concentrations cause some(me)PIP from a large deposit of "active ingredient". As I have posted on this subject before I am a proponent for "toying" with mgs/ml per pin. I like to run my shorter acting compounds to kick start, then less frequent pins for a run then finish of with shorts.
Bottom line is blends are easier and I'd test a vial before I went out purchasing more. I in fact have two fulls of sus4fifty I cannot tolerate the PIP. (the extreme PIP is also from the ethanol as from the high dose in a concentrated site)
Hope this helps.
not new to gear but i am new to some of the terms...lol what does PIP mean?
AnonPoint of Injection Pain
cool thanx
AnonBlend is easier, less oil.
Most separately come in 100mg/mL, in order to do 100mg of each compound you would need 3cc's. On the other hand there are some brands that come 300mg/mL (100each) hence you would only need 1cc. Also, do you really want to have to go thru the hassle of drawing from 3 vials every time you pin? The only reason one might want to go separate, other than having more control of individual compound dosing, would be to save $$ but you don't really save much. Price wise it works out almost the same give or take with various brands and dosing. I've priced a 8 week cycle out buying separate vs blend @ 600mg/week (2cc eod) & 900mg/week (3cc eod) on 6 of the top ten suppliers on here. If you wish to see numbers pm me.
Thanx, i was leaning towards the blend too. I was thinking about adding Sus with it to get a little more test in. When i priced a couple of sites the blend came out to be a little cheaper, that's why i was skeptical. thanx again!!!
AnonYea I'd buy 6 vials of blend and 3 of test prop to up yer test alittle more. Pin 2cc eod of the blend along with 1cc of test for 8 weeks. If you dont have a problem with ed pinning do the blend one day and test the next, help keep yer levels high n steady. I thought of using sust but I think the longer esters would be kinda pointless on such a short cycle unless you stretched your sust out to 10-12 weeks. Just my .02
thanx!