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Clean bulk after cutting - cycle advise

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I need advice on my lean bulk cycle. i really appreciate the help.

i weight 175 pounds, 5'7", body fat is below 10%

i want to do

Test E 1000 mg/week

EQ 600 MG/Week

Tren A 450-600/week

HGH 4 Iu's every morning.

keep in mind this is not my first cycle. i am thining of doing Clen
this time, which i never tried.

I have Mastron in hand and also Anvor.

Also doing 0.5 mg of Armidex every day since i am prone to gyno, will cut down to 0.5 Eod once I feel comfortable

Suggest me a good cycle , hoping to put on 10-15 lean muscle but try
to keep me shredded and body fat still in bleow 10%

i diet really clean , do 30 min cardio 5- 6 days a week.

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Ok bro, that's a great advice.

Then I do 800 mg test E/ week

Dbol 40 mg/ day

AI 0.5 EOD

HGH 4 iu's / day since I already a month into it.

Any suggestions on this cycle ? Help would be appreciated

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That amount of test could cause issues if gyno prone I would think also. Might be better off keeping test as a base and use something that doesn't aromatize. Maybe EQ or 1 test cyp, or lower the test along with some provi and kick with an oral like tbol or Superdrol. Lots of options out there even if gyno prone so don't run something that can aggravate that.

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How about keeping text E low at 500 mg / week and kick in with Dbol . Use Arimidex .5 mg/ EOD ?

Do you suggest Armidex , Letro or Aromasin if I do this cycle ?

I appreciate it if you could tell me a better cycle option for decent bulk

Makwa's picture

I would stay far away from any dbol if your gyno prone. You're just playing with fire there and going to get burned.

Here is some info on 1-TC if you are looking to go that route. Otherwise I would switch out that Dbol with some superdrol. Be sure to take care of your liver if using SD though. I use both Adex and aromasin, just depends what I have on hand and have even switched them during my cycles. Use whatever AI kept your estro under control for your other cycles. I wouldn't think you would need letro though.

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thanks. Forgot to add the link

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/my-experience-wi...

Tbol would definitely be less liver issues plus you get the added benefit of lowering SHBG with it. Many more sides come with SD and it can be a hell of a bulker but the trade off is you have to deal with the increased liver stress, lethargy issues, lipids being trashed and the overall unwell feeling that comes along with it.

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Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it .

So, I read about Tbol , seems promising. My source doesn't have 1 test.

Tbol 40-60 mg/ day
Test E 500 mg/ week
GH 3-4 iu's ( which I've been doing already )

Adding EQ ? Or any good choice or that would be eniugh for a decent bulk with good results ?

Makwa's picture

Eat like you mean it and you should gain plenty of quality weight with the tbol/test e. Its all about diet so adding more compounds into a cycle isn't necessarily going to translate into more gains. I would start the tbol at 50mg and run for 6 weeks with your liver protection. If you are going to add EQ in you are going to need run a cycle for at least 16+ wks but I really don't see a need for it.

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Perfect . That's great help.

I will stick with test/ Tbol .

I have Armidex in hand . That's what I've always been used.
I use that if I see sides of gyno.

I'm doing 0.5 mg everyday cause I had little puffy nipples and gets pointy when I'm in the pool. Don't want that get out of my hand

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Should be a good cycle. Just be sure you don't kill your estro because you need some of that to grow also. Normally you shouldn't need to take your AI until about 4wks into cycle otherwise you could crash it starting to early. .5mg ED is alot but not unheard of if estro prone. You may want to look into supplementing your cycle with some low dose Nolva (10mg/d) to help prevent any gyno flareups instead of dosing your ai to high and killing estro. I have not done this myself but I know others have so hopefully they could chime in. Have you had bloodwork done with that dose of Adex to see where your estro is at on cycle?

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No, i just started doing AI every day (like 2 days ago ) just because I saw my nipples getting little pointy and puffy. Nothing serious but don't want to get that look.

Before that, I was doing 0.5 every other day.

So , you want me to add nolva? I'm sure whether I have it in hand.

If I do ? Then , get back to AI 0.5 mg EOD and do 10 Nolva Ed? Whatever helps me from not getting nipples pointy and puffy

Makwa's picture

Just stick with you AI protocol for now, and don't add in the nolva

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I'm partial to 1TC because I have had good luck with it, but I know you have had some good runs with EQ.

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My first cycle was just test P 400 mg/ week.

Then pct

4 months after pct I did test , deca and EQ which bloated me up
But gaining crazy size
Pct

Next cycle was test , Npp and tren - gained 22 pounds

Next cycle was a cut cycle .

Test , tren , mastron , Anv and winny...cut 20 pounds now stand at 175 ish

Makwa's picture

For me food is more important than the choice of compounds. No need to get fancy and include all sorts of compounds in a bulk. Right now I am bulking on 750mg of sust and 30mg dbol. Keep it simple and focus on foods/diet/training and not so much on throwing a bunch of different compounds into a cycle. That is the best advice I can give you. Pick what compounds and doses you are comfortable with and put up a reasonable cycle that we all can advise on. Like I said before though, what you posted up above is way over the top, especially with only 4 cycles under your belt. No need for all that.

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Yes , that make sense @Makwa.

What do you suggest for my weights? For a clean bulk. I'll cut down the cardio and cut down the clen.

Can you suggest me a good cycle. Seems like you have more experience than me !!

I did couple of bulk cycles before but just added HGh.

What compounds and doses you suggest with my HGH.

Makwa's picture

Need to get a better idea of the cycles you have ran previously first.

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hoping to put on 10-15 lean muscle but try to keep me shredded and body fat still in bleow 10%

If you are going to bulk, make it a bulk. Gaining 15 lbs and staying shredded is very unlikely to happen.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/spinning-your-wheels

What is your cycle history? You are 175lbs and planning on running 1g of test along with 600mg of tren and some EQ!! Way over the top! And why are you thinking of clen when you are trying to bulk? And why all that cardio when you are trying to bulk?