posted Tue, 11/05/2013 - 18:09
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2nd cycle help please
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I did my first cycle 500 mg of test twice a week and completed my pct. gained decent size , strength gains were amazing , on my pct i started dieting and lost most of the size and strength as well. leaned out because of no carb diet. Now i could see my abs and i feel better but skinny
Now its time to start my 2nd cycle....My goal for this cycle is to get buff but still want to keep it pretty lean.
any advises?
Thanks
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put stats up mate then I can help
After my first cycle i weighed at around 184 ( went from 176 to 184, not a lot of weight gain) , i did my pct and cut down my carbs dramatically. i'm leaner now. i weight around 160.
its time to get buff , i would appreciate it if you can come up with a stack for cycle 2. I dont want to look bloated though
im thinking either test e with test p kicker/taper test with mast or test with var ??? like any of these ideas??? have you researched any of these??
what do you think of this stack
Week 1: 1000mg of test (front loading)
Week 2-14: 500mg of test per week
and Deca ? not sure about the dose
pct - 2 weeks after the last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
i would appreciate the help
instead of front loading a gram of test e, do a test prop kicker @ 150mgs eod, with 250mgs of test e for the first 4 weeks, then drop the prop and run 500-600mgs of test e until week 12- then 2 weeks after last jab run pct- clomid-100-100-50-50- nolva 40-40-20-20
aromasin for ai- 6.25 ed or 12.5 eod- starting at the end of week 2.
Awesome , what do you think of doing DECA along with that mate?
i used test cypionate for my first cycle. to be honest with you i just want to get guidance from more experienced people like you so i would get better results in a safer way.
just give me once stack i could do bro, seems like you know what you are talking about...want to get buff with less water retention.
agreed
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RustyhookerIta all about foods to keep those gains. Keto Burns fat BUT too many misding calories and you're 100% deficit. Repeat first cycle. Furst cycle is enough for bulk or cut for many seasons.
Food is not a drug. Drugs are drugs, and without drugs sustaining the extremely anabolic state you're in you will lose the composition (dry/grainy appearance), the vascularity, and the strength the drugs gave you once you discontinue them unless you're a genetic freak extremely high natural test levels. Otherwise you will resort back to your body's natural ways in building and maintaining muscle.
agreed...
what do you think i should do for my 2nd cycle? i would like to get buff , i did test cypionate 500 a week.i looked big but put on 8 pounds in 12 weeks.
Revenge and rusty have provided some good info. FR sent. I want to know about blood work values, talk to you about your BMR, and determine if you are ectomorph, mesomorph, or endomorph.....
got it.
i did see good results with the first cycle but would like to experiment since i have experienced the first cycle. would like to throw couple more compounds which have less sides....
Stats...It sounds like you need to experiment with your diet.
yes, i need to change up my diet. once i my 2nd cycle figured it out i would like to add more protein, medium carbs,medium fats into my diet. after all its time to get buff. as of now, i am barely taking any carbs
Age? you put on 8 lbs and then lost 24? You sound young and confused. Never fear, we're here to help. Here is a timeless and true gaining stack. The best news is you can experiment with an andless number of compounds. This is just the base and you can modify it as needed. 2 whole eggs, 4 egg whites, 2 chicken breasts, 2 cans of tuna, 1 steak and 2 protein drinks. you'll have to inject this into the large hole in your face. Don't do it all at once because it can really knock you on your ass and you may not be able to get up for awhile. Ancillaries for this stack are composed of green, yellow, orange and various other color items you can find in a produce section. In addition, use some long and short brown stuff you can find in the asian and italian sections.
Supplement this stack with heavy bench press, rows, squats, and deadlifts. Again, don't do them all in one day. Spread them throughout the week and add complimentary movements.
This stack will make you wicked strong and buff. After one yea, women and children will adore you and men will want to be you.
bro i really appreciate your diet advice. i eat like mothafucka when it comes to bulk...thanks for the advice though
mate, this kind of thing is getting tiresome, he wants help on designing his 2nd cycle, im all for safety first!! don't get me wrong but really?? he didn't ask for diet advice he asked for cycle advice, and he has as much rite to ask for advice as me or you! we are here to help, yes.
No worries guys. I really thought you were like 2o years old because you wouldn't list your age. I see your 27 so i apologize. Do what revenge wrote up there and you'll be fine. However, it sounds like you want someone to tell you it's ok to run additional compounds. Just do the Test.
no worries man..its all good
hey bro, no need to apoligise! fr sent
Thanks mate, i really appreciate it.
I just want to know better cycle, i did my first cycle with the help of my friend. he guided me with that. Now i want to do it with better results.
and of course i change my diet with it.
First: what are your stats!?!
You may like to "throw a couple more compounds which have less sides" but that is just not wise or prudent. Being your second cycle, you will still see great gains from that cycle, especially if you get your diet dialed in. You don't need anything else. It would be a waste of money and a strain on your health. Why? Think about it.
right now i weight around 160. 5'8"....leaned out. i did test cypionate 500 a week, 12 weeks. gained total 8 pounds.
what would you suggest for my 2nd cycle if i would like to get buff?
Age? Need that one. How is your workouts, how often, etc.?
27 years old. i workout 5 days a week...been working out for more than 4 years. i did pro hormones before too but figured if i want to screw with my lever i would do it in a better and safer way with more results
you have two options bulk or cut bro
What would you recommend if i would like to do bulk but with lean gains? what do you think about using EQ and test E?
i heard Deca would kill the sex drive, thats a big minus....