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AnOtHeR first cycle!!

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First cycle options: Test-e only, Test-e & dbol or tbol kickstart? i really want to kickstart with an oral. i have TUDCA liver support on hand along with a few others to use threw the oral and probably entire cycle cause arimidex is also hard on liver. any input would be appreciated

ridingbicycles101's picture

im thinking dbol might be a little to wet. any info on the tbol or other kickstarter for a bulk cyce

aussiedan's picture

Don't be so quick to jump the gun bro. Take it from someone only a year older than yourself. These guys know their shit! Save the orals for another cycle. Test is all you need! You will gain massive if your diet is on point!

Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mg split 2x week
Weeks 4-12 and all through PCT, Aromasin 6.25mg ED or 12.5mg EOD

PCT starts 15 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD or 6.25mg ED all way through PCT (can lower dose to 6.25mg EOD in last 2 weeks if you feel it's too much)

ridingbicycles101's picture

yeah im doing test-e solo..very similar to what u have posted accept im probably going to be using ADEX.. great info tho

ridingbicycles101's picture

im 23

OmNom's picture

Meh you could give it two more years before you touch the stuff.. Not as bad at the 16 and 18 year olds on here trying to juice but honestly you could wait and just abuse your surplus of natty testosterone

ridingbicycles101's picture

yeah true, ive seen some17-19yearold kids at my gym that are juicing. they have great physiques and are crazy strong. especially for their age.. i wonder how their health will be when their 30 tho? and i already touched a prohormone for 5 weeks and finished the pct in august so by january i will be good to go. and to be honest im pretty set on doing a cycle in january.

OmNom's picture

That's the thing.. there are not many long term studies.. From my experiences it seems when ppl react bad they react BAD and when they don't react bad they are fine.. The consequences can be rough and there is no going back once it's done.. In the end it's your call but I wouldn't compare myself to 19 year old kids if I were you.. They'll prlly have a nice rack by 30

ridingbicycles101's picture

its the gyno gainer their on

OmNom's picture

How old are you.. Test E only don't use anything else til you see how you react to test

ridingbicycles101's picture

ohh i also will begin bulking about a week or 2 before cycle so i will start cycle a little over 180

ridingbicycles101's picture

178lbs, 5'11, BF 10-12%..im not starting cycle till after the holidays so around january. diet on cycle will be: chicken,eggs, fish any clean meat, sweet potatoes, oatmeal.. training 4x per week and will switch up to shock the muscles

jpal's picture

your avoiding the age, its been asked twice how old are you

logan's picture

STATS before any constructive advice can be given.