Advice from experienced users
I was hoping to get some experienced users advice on the next cycle I plan on taking. I'm not new to the game but I have not taken any gear for the last year. When I was on, I was taking Test E Tren E and Anadrol. My regiment was 16 weeks. All 16 weeks I followed the following cycle regiment.
Weeks 1-16 Test E 500mg/week
Weeks 8-16 Tren E 200mg/week
Weeks 11-16 Anadrol 50mg Per Day.
After that run I needed a break. I never got advice for that cycle but it turned out great and I didn't crash coming off. Gained about 15-20 lbs that stayed on and 44lbs in all.
Next Cycle Planned Includes: Test P, Tren A (or Hex) and Anavar.
First off, is that a logical cycle? Second if so, any recommendations on dosage amnts, when to begin each one and how long?
My stats are:
Male
30 Years of Age
5'11 230lbs
Guessing 8-10% Body Fat.
Thanks for any consideration on advice.
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Bro, in my experience attempts at "lean bulks" are disappointing in their results and the height of frustration for all the dieting and training the go with them. Most bodybuilders (at least on the competition circuits) still bulk and cut the way it's always been done since the sport became a sport.
The stack you are proposing is best used as a cut stack not a mass building stack. If you want to build I suggest you come up with something else. If you really want something slow and steady, consider EQ.
I will definitely do more research! Thank you.
Could be. What is your goal for this cycle?
My goal is as mentioned below. Any input?
Exactly what Gearhead said above. This post elaborates on that point some more.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/spinning-your-wheels
If you truly are under 10% your body is primed for a massive quality bulk so take advantage of that. Your insulin sensitivity with that lower bodyfat is primed for lean mass building and the nutrient partitioning effects with that low of bodyfat are ridiculasly insane. Most of your nutrients will go into lean mass building and very little fat, even with a calorie surplus. Just ask any bodybuilder how great that rebound effect is after a comp, those are the reasons why. Put together a cycle with more "traditional" bulking compounds and I think you will be pleased. I am running a pretty simple cycle right now with phenomal results. 750mg sust and pulsing 50mg of adrol (180mg/wk of deca is in there also for my joints and to cut the sust with).
P2i2tWell the advice I'll give is if you are running short ester test I would stick with the same short ester tren...which is obviously tren A. Considering tren A has about a 3 day half life and tren hex has a drastically different 14 day half life, it would just seem logical to me to keep each compound the same type...short acting esters. Just my personal preference I guess. If I were to use hex it would be with cyp or test E or even better test Dec. Considering decanoate Has just about the same half life as hexahydrobenzylcarbonate. Meaning pinning days would be the same making it much more convenient
Thanks for the advice brother! Definitely will take it!
P2i2tAlso brother can I ask you what your logic in taking anadrol and tren together are? Tren as I'm sure you know is for lean muscle mass. It drains the water out of you and helps you lose the fatty tissue as well. Therefore you get lean gains while holding as little water as possible. Hence the definition and vascularity you get using tren. Whereas Anadrol purposely makes you retain water because the more water in your muscles the stronger they will be. Hence the reason so much weight is usually gained rapidly using that compound. Because it purposely fills you with water to increase your strength much quicker and full you out. Which is quite the opposite of the other compound you will be using. So I'm just trying to figure out the logic here and figure out exactly what your goals for this cycle are? Not saying you are wrong exactly in doing this, because a lot of times there is a method behind the madness, but I just can't figure this one out lol like me for instance, I used tren for the first big part of this cycle, about 16 weeks, then I wanted to fill out more so I dropped the tren and switched to NPP and Anadrol. Two compounds that help you fill out and aim towards the same goals
I guess my logic is "Slowly but Surely" meaning I was under the notion that these compounds would give me slower steadier gain but more quality and less water retention. Now keep in mind this is my first attempt at a lean cycle so I am nieve to it. That's the reason for this post. My thought process could be way out in left feild and I could be way off target! That's where I hope you guys come in with your advice like this! Its well appreciated!
Tren and anadrol Are magic together. Tren just eats glycogen stores and flattens me out after a while making me look to lean and stringy. Then you add drol and It blows up the muacle from the inside. Drol causes intra musclar sodium retention which in turn pulls the water in the muscle instead of sub q like dbol. I did the same as him and I looked awesome. Full as hell still dry and hard as fuck. Not all respond the same tho but for me it works awesome.
P2i2tGood into bro. I just always viewed them as being used for seperate goals. Different views and preferences are what makes this game great. And that's exactly why I switched from tren to npp and drol. Because after 16 weeks I was getting very flat from the tren. I prefer them in the same cycle but used back to back with one another. A little different from your approach but basically for the same reasoning
Ya a lot of people view drol as a bulker not something to use cutting but it works awesome to fill you out when cutting and puts the water in the right places. Many guys I know use drol at the end of their contest prep and as you know you gotta be bone dry come that time. So it works. And the strength gains are pretty crazy with tren and anadrol. Ifi ever run tren again I'll definitely use drol when I start to get flat and can't counter it with diet changes.
That's good to hear brother, because I have that in stock as well?!