45 Need Assistance with Next Cycle
I am 45 and this is not my first cycle. I hope not to be judged because this is my first post. By trade I am a business analyst and try to be the best student of whatever I am doing. I have a great admiration for the knowledge of those of you on the board and my head is swirling with information and I would like some guidance from the pros.
My last cycles were Test E only and I admittedly did not run them as cautious or as respectful of the process as I should have. Hence why I am here. I ran my longest cycle about 1.5 years ago with no sides. I tapered up slow and then tapered back off and at the highest was probably sitting in the 500 to 700mg. Made great gains but did while trying to cut. It worked of course.
Age: 45, Height 6’3”,
Weight current 217 but am slowly cutting to get sub 10%.
Goal: is to clean bulk when cut is over.
I understand the difference is my kitchen game. I count my Macros to the T and log my weight loss and gains weekly. I am currently progressing in my cut nicely.
I was hoping for some direction and would like to stay with Test but currently have Tren A on me and considering bringing that into the mix. But I am open to some real guidance and length of cycle and weekly dosage amounts.
Thank you in advance for taking the time.
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i recommend you to zenith.pharma.us at gmail com. they will help you out with some advice
Queen Pharma, I recommend you leave & never come back shill
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You need fucking banned and a slap. Get the fuck out of here
Was that at me
Nope sorry was to the guy telling you to buy something.
No sir... he was referring to the post trying to advertise
I thought so. I try to be respectful and mind myself. My momma taught me right. Especially to someone that has served our country. Thank you sir for your service.
Thank you sir.... it was my privilege!!
I’m going to have to be the bad guy here. Your nowhere big enough to be running gear. You could get a lot bigger than that with no gear. Your going to have to eat. That’s my opinion.
Appreciate the advice. Agreed and point taken. This was me September 2017 at 197. I went up to 233 with my beautiful winter coat. Now I am cutting much slower as to not loose my gains. Sitting at 217 as of Monday.
I am torn because couldn't everyone get bigger with the right diet and programming. So I respect your advice but will proceed forward because in my mind I am here for advice about how to take advantage of science to some degree. Aren't we all in a way. Thank you again Sam
If your diet isn’t right now it woulnt be on cycle. Your lean but if you want to get bigger your going to have to eat more. Especially on cycle. That’s the science of nutrition. If you just want to be lean and have abs your already there. Good luck.
Understood. Further back in the history of the message I admittedly did previous cycles like the typical just to get lean guy. Now I have dedicated the last 1.5 years of controlling and manipulating my cuts and gains with macros. Even decided to get my NASM to educate myself. I feel like I have earned the right to push the envelope because I am coming at this from a more logical direction. Thanks again for your input. It is appreciated for sure Sam
Most definitely they would get bigger and they can achieve it fairly quickly. There then becomes a point where this doesn't happen anymore. You can only take your body so far naturally before it starts fighting back when trying to add more muscle. This is point where AAS comes into play. You are no where near that point yet so there is really no benefit for you to be cycling right now. You are fairly lean so your nutrient partitioning should be really good now and if you eat and train right you should be able to gain a ton of lean body mass without any AAS. Then the next step is to consider a cycle.
Thoughts on the Test. I loved the Test E the last two times but read a bit on sides and the life of Enanthates sticking around in your systems. That is one of the reasons I like as well. Just curious on everyone's preferences on Test(s).
You got any kind of body lotion or something you use specifically? Your skin looks young, good genetics is right. Just wondering if you got any tips +1
I have used Neva since I was about mis twenties when I lived in Europe
Rustyhooker45.... no way. Not biting.
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Come on now. A brother can't at least have something. This is indeed me my friend. You gotta trust at some point. That picture is indeed me at the age of 44 1/2. 05/03/1973
Rustyhookerhave 6 kids and 3 granddaughters....plus full time executive....and time for full body waxes eh?
I got a bridge for sale. Good catfish though
Never seen a full grown adult use tinyurl kiddie site to save pictures either. Lol
Well you care for a wager. Loser buys the winners next cycle. I am all in. But in all seriousness. You can PM and I will go live on camera for ya to prove a point or share my social media and you can see the whole family. All of them.
I may be a lot of things. But have no reason to lie about something I have busted my ass for. 2015 I was 255lbs of shit. I work harder the most people would ever dream. I am proud of that.
SunnyD.81I've never seen a 45 year old with skin like that, you literally look 25 or less, you're hands and knuckles aren't wrinkled at all
Sunny Thank you but the camera is being more kind than i wish. Just the other day driving in the good sun and looked at my hands and thought to myself. Whos f-ing hands are these.
What the fucking fuck your 45 and this is you? If your for real then good for you man cause this looks like a 25 year old
Not talking shit about size or anything just your tone and skin is young as fuck looking
Thank you 333. I have been very lucky in the genes department and take good care of myself for the most part. Do drink to excess sometimes. I have 6 kids and 3 granddaughters. That is a receipt for booze sometimes. ;). I fibbed a little. 45 birthday in May.
Well good for you bro that's a plus 1 from me
RustyhookerThe guys got ya correct below. Post up a pct to just finish the deal.
Bloods! At our age, our natty juice is on the downhill slide. Get a panel run prior to start. You might be ready for a trt scenario or find hidden health issues.
Bloods again!!?? Week 5 to check that estro and if needed, be ready with the ai.
Thank you RustyH - Read a ton of your posts. Great info as always. Given what it looks like the way I wanted to lean. My heart said Tren but my mind said SHUT THE F UP. Great advice. Selling the Tren.
Went got the ole TRT test 5 months ago. Test was to high to RX me.
Given 12 weeks of Test E at 500 mgs. Having an AI on hand for my mid point bloods. Thoughts on when to start my PCT and dosages in you experience.
Do you have clomid and pct plan?
Ranger - my pct is intended for sure but is pending my cycle length and suggested gear. But absolutely yes sir I have it planned just not sure on the exacts yet.
Ok let everyone help you get the whole plan together first. Alot of smart guys and gals. Goodluck
Me personally I would stick with just test only 500mg a week for 12 wks pct and then at least 12 wks off. And then eat, use your 3 months off to cut. I would have a AI on hand. Just because no sides last time doesn’t mean no sides this time
Twiztd - I am finally looking forward to EATING while on gear. Even in my 20's I always was cutting and did not get to take advantage of the growth opportunity. DUMB ASS KID. I have about 20 Adex right now but plan on having more on hand. But because test E takes a bit to kick in the plan was to hold until 4 or maybe even 6 weeks (advice warranted) until I started an AI. Thank you
Few tips
Stick with test only
Its been 1.5 years since last cycle go right back to first time dose.
Tren is really harsh on your body. Leave it be for the few years or even more.
Test only cycle 8 to 10 weeks. Keep it simple. I'm sure you will get alot more advice. Goodluck
Thank you for taking the time RangerVet.