posted Sat, 12/02/2023 - 21:53
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I'm about to start this cycle in a few days. Just received the last of my gear. Did some preliminary blood work making sure everything was okay before I started. Testosterone is pinned twice a week at 250mg. Anavar is a finisher for last 6 weeks split into two 25mg doses a day.
I thought about adding prop kick/finish, but this cycle worked well for me last time and I'm good with it like this. I have Aromasin on hand just in case I have some high e2, but I don't seem to get high e2 on 500mg/wk of test. I also thought about adding primo this cycle, but I'm going to save that experience for next cycle probably.
Cycle:
| Testosterone Enanthate | Anavar (Oxandrolone) 2x/day | Clomid | Nolva | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 500mg | 1 | |||
| 500mg | 2 | |||
| 500mg | 3 | |||
| 500mg | 4 | |||
| 500mg | 5 | |||
| 500mg | 6 | |||
| 500mg | 7 | |||
| 500mg | 8 | |||
| 500mg | 25mg | 9 | ||
| 500mg | 25mg | 10 | ||
| 500mg | 25mg | 11 | ||
| 500mg | 25mg | 12 | ||
| 25mg | 13 | |||
| 25mg | 14 | |||
| 100mg | 40mg | 15 | ||
| 100mg | 40mg | 16 | ||
| 50mg | 20mg | 17 | ||
| 50mg | 20mg | 18 |
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Cycle is perfect. 6 weeks is perfect. Var is harsh on lipids and that layout is exactly how its done. Pct is stellar as done by many. Llewellen and others cite the same layout on pct.
People with PhD titles
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/simple-pct-...
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/toremifene-...
I stand corrected with the Clomid/Nolva mixture...damn times have changed.
If he did a little 300mg for 12 weeks then im sure a single clomid would suffice. But after reading all those links im going to try to not have to be on trt at least til im old old. Lol
Need more anavar but that’s just me… also you have seven weeks on there, I’d do eight.
PCT is shit.
Supernova283What’s wrong with the pct? I have highish BUN levels and don’t want to stress my kidneys too much with too much var.
It is not so much the kidneys you have to worry about but var will completely flip your lipids, which I don't see in your bloodwork.
Supernova283My bad forgot to post lipids. Doc says they're borderline optimal just a little bit high although that's just for normal every day life. You think I should drop the var since my lipids are on the healthy border?
100% guaranteed to flip your lipid profile. Just something you have to live with if going to use var. A statin will keep your levels in healthy range if you want to go that route or just live with the flipped lipid profile which should eventually correct itself over time after stopping. Just keep an eye on your lipids if you use it and if levels don't' correct themselves then you could always ask your doc for a script for some Rosuvastatin or something like that. You are right at that point right now where you could probably benefit from a statin anyway. Only going to get worse as you age.
Supernova283Thanks mate I'll keep it in mind. Appreciate all the help you do for the community man. Always nice to have experienced pros help out.
Curious and don’t want to open a can of worms here… there are a ton of negatives to statins, although they are intended to help, they cause more harm in the long run. Are there other things that can assist with lipids.
What negatives are there. Nothing worse than a heart attact or stroke due to high cholesterol. The only real side effect that I have heard complaints about is muscle soreness. Seemed to be very common with lipitor (as was the case with my wife). Crestor (Rosuvastatin) does not have that side effect. Most docs are now switching patients over to Rosuvastatin since it is now available generic and insurance will cover it now. Basically zero side effects. With any medication though, it is best to discuss the benefits vs side effects with your doc.
https://youtu.be/x3BzgZqFuZc?si=fK8hzfh-g90WSd2b
I’m not a doctor. I have a pharmacist in the family who has become extremely anti statin based on similar ideologies. I guess it’s the idea they may be over prescribed as a “cure all” vs taking care of your comorbidities.
Well I tend to agree with your Doctor. Statins can be good but nowadays it's the first thing guys are grabbing instead of lowering cholesterol old school style if cholesterol could be lowered that way. Extreme cases then yes statins, other than that try using other methods. I was once prescribed Crestor but didn't take it and lowered my cholesterol naturally. Even my Doctor told me what nutrients that would help lower my levels. Unfortunately that same Doc died having surgery for some other procedure. Again now if cholesterol is really bad, statins are needed.
Niacin, oatmeal, a peptide ummmm....brainfart....works wonders
Running those two together is pointless. Run one or the other and supplement ZMA and Vit D. I think Clovis trumps all.
Also run NAC with the oral. 50mg is light. That is just me though. I’d run 8 weeks too. Also run test the full length of the oral then take your two weeks prior to PCT if that’s what you want. The test will help solidify those gains from the oral… that’s my personal opinion though.