2nd cycle - primo and test
Looking for any thoughts on my second cycle. First cycle was test e 500 and dbol. Got good results, didn't care for dbol with water retention. I'm a taller dude and looking for solid lean gains. I'm current 208 6'3 and would like to be a rock hard 215. Diet is very clean 3500-4000 calories. From what I've researched primo has low sides and provides quality lean keepable gains. It requires high protein intake to be successful.
Week 1-16 primo e 600 split mon/thurs
Week 1-16 test e 300 split mon/thurs
Week 18-22 PCT -
Clomid 100,100,50,50
Nolva 40,40,20,20
Will keep aromasin on hand but doubt I'll need as low test cycle but YOU NEVER KNOW
Here's the tricky part- went to Doc for allergy testing and bloods came back low T at 261. Have been feeling sluggish past 6 months but thought due to 11 hour work days + training. Doc wants me to start once a week injections of test C. Told her I would think about it and decide later. Id like to run this cycle, and include HCG in PCT to see if I can jump start natty production only own. Get bloods throughout. If T doesn't rise after PCT then I guess it's TRT for me. :(
Stats
Age: 28
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 208
BF: 13%
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Go see an endo and try to get your natty back! screw this cycle it means nothing compared to being on TRT for life.
Bro,
It looks like Dr. Scally may still be practicing that crazymofo mentioned below. His blog seems up-to-date:
http://michaelscally.blogspot.com
I would hope he's not the only doc in the US that does HPTA Restoration / Restart (caused by AAS use). I would pursue the medical route first. See if anything can be done.
None of us can say what will happen if u cycle again from where u are and attempt PCT. I was only a few years older than u are now when I became a TRT patient from steroid use. When I started TRT my natty production was almost non-existent.
I think TRT is something u should try to avoid not cause. I'm never gonna be in the group that says - oh, it's no big deal don't worry about it. If I could do it over I would not want TRT.
What was PCT for first cycle? How long after PCT did you get your bloods taken? What was you T levels before the first cycle(assuming you had bloods). You need to get that low test taken care of before you jump on a 16 week cycle..
It was my first cycle two years ago and I did not get bloods, I now know how important blood work is and how stupid I was 1st cycle. So now I have no idea if low T is natural for me or caused by bunk pct.
If I was you I would really look into trying to restart natty test. I have a minimal amount of knowledge on the topic as I have never done it. You could do research on Dr. Scally's power PCT. Its a pretty hardcore PCT but it is an option.
And I would definitely start a new thread on the topic of your low T and some options. You would get more traffic from some of the very knowledgeable members here. I would say no on the cycle until you at least know whether you can avoid TRT so early.
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