posted Sun, 12/16/2012 - 10:05
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1st cycle and not having a great experience
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This is my first cycle. I am taking 600mg per week of TEST E. I am currently on my 6th week. Last week I started noticing puffy hands. I assume it is water retention. I went to doc and he listened to be heart and lungs. Everything was ok. He also checked my blood pressure and it was normal. I did not tell me doc I am using Test E. Today I noticed water retention in my right calf/ankle area. This cycle has not been great. I have not seen much increase in strenth or energy. I have gained 12 pounds during the cycle. My question is: what is my next move? Should I stop taking the Test E completely or lower the dose?
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I'm on my first cycle too. The over analysis of trying something new and exciting led me to believe that several things were happening that weren't actually true. Felt like I had high blood pressure, etc. I think I was just stressed in my life. Hang in there and try your best not to notice little stuff. In reality, the 500mg/wk of test e isn't overly crazy in my system. Yeah, my back (the part ive worked hardest through this) is starting to look great. Chest is getting there too. This was going to be a one shot deal for me, cycling. Now, I'm already thinking of what I should stockpile for next cycle (thinking test prop and masteron prop), it's a real fun thing to go with. Keeps me more motivated to keep working out too (why would I want to waste this stuff?). You can pm me if you just want to talk about whatever.
PS Im diagnosed with depression and anxiety, so I tend to freak out over small shit. This stuff really seems harmless. If anything sometimes I suffer low estro side effects from the PES Erase I've been taking.
AnonGood stuff, I like personal touch on your thread, +1 if I could.
Thanks. I know relating is better than just saying it'll be OK. I constantly go through these dumb little micro crisis situations on cycle. They're all so dumb haha
AnonKEEP ROLLING!! work out hard eat good and see what happens in a few more weeks
AnonAren't you also taking tren e with it?
I am just taking Test. I am taking Test E from 2 different sources. During my cycle I purchased Test E and Tren from a guy at the gym. The guy at the gym had no labels on his stuff. I was concerned he mixed up the Test E and Tren. I know now why I have the puffy hands. It is water retention in my hands. I was not taking an AI. I have AI and PCT stuff on the way in the mail.
CleyonI think you're well sorted here, but I want to throw in something else. It seems that you didn't understand what all the compounds do. Taking Lasik can be great for stripping out the last little bit of water weight, but it's not going to do anything for extrogen reduction. This is the hard learning portion that happens around here, glad you got to learn your lesson without growig a pair of DDs. Get an AI on station and you should be ready to rock again.
thanks Cleyon. I had beleived all the PCT agents should be only used AFTER the cycle. This was a major lesson for me. Walking around with bloated hands is not a fun thing to explain to people. I am in the process of ordering Aromasin, Arimidex, Nolva, and Clomid. All 4 are proving difficult to come by. Most of the domestic sites have 2 or 3 but not all 4.
im gonna paint a picture that you can understand, juicing is kinda like driving a car. when you pin some gear its like hitting the gas pedal, your AI allows you to steer, with out the ability to control estro its like driving a car with no steering wheel, you need to be able to turn and adjust through out the cycle. And PCT is like the brakes, with out PCT your gonna crash and burn. So the most important part of the cycle is the brakes, then the steering wheel, then the gas.
Good stuff
One of the best analogies I've ever heard Noid. Good stuff
Nice
nice...i like that. I learned my lesson. When I first started my cycle people were saying: "Damn you are getting big". Now they are saying: "why are your hands swollen?"
CleyonBrilliant analogy! Thanks Roid Noid, I'm going to start using it!
CleyonFriend me, and I'll tell you where I get my PCT supplies. I understand the pain, but it's not the end of the world, you'll get through it.
i just sent you a friend request
your mid in ur cycle go get a blood test.
CleyonGood catch Woody! Before, middle, and after!
wheres your AI? do you have adex, or aromason? you dont mention it in this post, but you know your retaining water. .25 adex ED or 6.25 aromason will get rid of the water. if you are taking one then its bunk and you need to get some more....basically what is happening is the test is converting to estrogen and making you retain water. it will make you feel like shit too, being bloated sucks. thats why before you start a cycle you get all your stuff first, AI and PCT are more important then the juice.
i have lasix that was given to me by a doc. It has not helped at all. I did not tell the doc I was taking Test E. I don't have any adex or aromason. Will the adex or aromason be more effective than the lasix?
ive never heard of anyone using lasix on cycle to prevent estrogen sides, get some adex it will take care of the problem in a matter of days.
okay. Thanks.
try lowering your sodium intake and do some cardio. are you using an A.I.?
I'm in my first cycle as well. Also not having a good experience. Been takin 600mg test E per week and have felt absolutely nothing. No sides and no gains. I'm starting week seven this upcoming Friday. Very frustrating. So i guess at least you know your gear is real. Do you have an ai such as adex on hand?
I don't have an AI on hand. My doctor have me a water pill called Lasix. The water pill is doing nothing. But maybe b/c the Test E is too strong. I should get some AI
do you have a cycle log? hopefully a vet chimes in here to give a solid answer for you as I'm interested to know myself.. sry I don't have enough experience to really help you out bro.
I take adex at .25 mg e3d to avoid the bloating. Do you have arimidex on hand if so take. 25 eod and see if it helps.
how clean is your diet or u eating enough clean calories? do u have ai on hand? maybe add in 30-60mins of cardio a day to get rid of water bloat.