posted Mon, 07/11/2022 - 00:59
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+ 1 Should E2 be at pre blood work numbers or is it a ratio?
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Pre blood work came back at 26ng/ml for E2.
523ng/ml for Testosterone.
On week 5 of 200mg E3D of Test C, just started .25 Adex on days I pin, so far I've taken 2 of those, so .5 total Adex. I plan on taking .25 every day I pin, especially since I'm feeling good rn.
I pin tomorrow and then getting bloods done Tuesday to see where my e2 levels are.
I feel good, no sides really at all except for not being able to stay hard this last week and some water. The adex solved that pretty quickly. Laid the wood last night and felt great.
My question is, should I shoot for getting my e2 back to 26 or will I shoot for the pre blood work ratio of 26E2/523Test
I hope that makes sense.
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OneinamillionIt sounds like you're doing a great job managing your cycle so far. I would suggest shooting for the pre-blood work ratio of 26ng/ml for E2 and 523ng/ml for Testosterone. That should help you maintain a healthy balance of hormones and keep you feeling good. Good luck!
I like mine higher on a bulk, and lower on a cut.
I’m stronger with it higher, get hyped up way easier too, hanging low explained it really well, my response is personal preference.
pre cycle bloods (good job on getting these) came back 26 E2 and 523 test, all good there
You started the adex because of trouble staying hard which is a common high estrogen side effect, seeing it go away with the deployment of adex means you are on the right track and would continue to do that
Estrogen elevates in conjunction with testosterone, the higher your test the higher your estrogen without AI usually. This is because estrogen is created by the aromatase enzyme attaching to test, more test == more conversion. An aromatase inhibitor like arimidex, blocks this enzyme from attaching to test. It is not uncommon for me to see estrogen 80+ pg/dl with a 2k+ total test on cycle with clients not running AI. Not everyone gets gyno at these numbers and high estrogen has many benefits, most importantly cardiovascular protection and androgen receptor upregulation. When testosterone comes back down, estrogen comes down.
So you should shoot for a E2 number that is as high as you can tolerate (aka does not produce side effects; moodiness, acne (common) ED, lethargy, changes in sexual preference). You do this by using the as minimal amount of adex as possible, your protocol is good. I find the 50s pg/dl for e2 to be pretty good for most, but this is individual dependent. I think the .25mg with each injection is a good protocol for now since you feel good, that's the key. See what your e2 comes back at and you have a reference for future cycles.
Good job asking questions, doing bloods and learning the game +1
I do like how you explained how its personal preference and based on how the individual FEELS. Most think they NEED E2 to be at 36 pg/dl with 800 plus test range. Which is good yes but if you dont FEEL good with it being that low then that is what is important. Same with how new people think they need to blast gear. they think they need to blast 3 different compounds at 500 mg each a week and while some find this ok, if you dont feel well dosing that high then lower it. that way, you will see far better results. see, some people will do 500 test with 500 npp but me. i did 300 test and 300 npp and felt AMAZING and had far better gains. its all about how you FEEL. if you feel like crap blasting certain compounds then dont use them. use something else and get better gains. some people get uspet that they cant use certain androgens because of the sides they get but, it doesnt matter. use something you can tolerate and let the gains begin.
Awesome answer, thank you for taking the time to write that out.
NP man feel free to slide in PM if ever needed, I like your enthusiasm to learn
Rustyhooker25-55pg/ml is good range