Recovery after 5years on roids
Hello!
I would like to ask your advice.
Long story short: I am 27y.o., I was blasting and cruising about 5 years.
Last shot (short esters) was 10 weeks ago.
I did a proper PCT, and I Still use clomid 50mg/day, and 500iu HCG every 3 day. (Not from pharma, maybe it is bunk, IDK)
I lost 9kg, and lot of strength, but the main problem is my libido totally gone, and I can barely have erection even with kamagra.
Blood result --- reference
Cortisol 720 (166-500)
LH 0.6 (1.7-8.5)
FSH 0.7 (1.5-12.4)
Ostradiol 37.3 (95-220)
TSH 4.86 (0.2-4.2)
Total test 0.47 (8.6-29)
I visited a doctor yesterday, he wanted to put me on TRT. Didnot even try to help me fix the hormones.
I only came off the roids because we want a baby next year, so the TRT is not an option in my opinion.
Ofcourse I give time for my body, I know it is a slow and hard procedure, but can you suggest anything?
How long was your recovery after years of cycle? Can you even fully recover?
TRT is not a problem for me, but as I said, the priority is having a baby next year.
Thank you very much for your help,and sorry for my bad english...
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You made a mistake by adding HCG in your PCT you only prolonged the recovery process! HCG mimics LH and by doing so LH receptors het suppressed for atleast 3 days Every time you pin IT. Try using aromasin/letros with clomid that works much better! I blasted high doses for 8 years without even going to the gym I was a Total idiot but I got prescribed dexamphetamine for ADHD which Burns fat and raises catabolism so to counter that I used roids to try to Stay at the same weight! Guess what I recovered without any PCT!!! Don't be like me do proper PCT runs OR lose your gains and get gyno as simple as that my brother. Your cortisol is higher than usual next time add Clenbuterol to your PCT to lessen your catabolic state when you are in one your gains disaapear bruuuuuuuh.....
I would look into the Dave Palumbo baby protocol when you try to have a kid! Posted that last week
https://youtu.be/-A4opGrWc_E
Medications:
Clomid 50mg a day
Proviron 25mg 3x a day
HCG 500-4000iu 3x a week
Supplements for boosting sperm count and testosterone production
Soy Lecithin, L-Arginine, Zinc, Pygeum, Fish Oil, horny goat weed, Swedish Flower, Muira Puama, Maca, D-Aspartic Acid, Tribulus Terrestris, Fenugreek, Ginger, DHEA, Ashwagandha, multi-vitamins and BCAA.
I had two beautiful children while on blast. Everyone's body is different.
Try this. I’m currently on 4th week of this and feel awesome, I have high hopes for it. I’ve been on for over 5 years and started cycling when I was 18.
I used Aromasin at 6.25mg E3D, same dose I used while in Test Cyp 200mg E6D.
I’m also running 6IU HGH daily which I believe is also helping A LOT.
I will follow up with bloods 1 month after I complete it.
PCT Plan
Week 1-3:
HCG-1000 IU eod
HMG-75 IU eod in days opposite to HCG
Aromasin 25 mg ed, with last meal of the day (adjust down as needed)
Boron 10mg daily
ZMA-3 caps/night
Week 4:
Boron 10mg daily
D-aspartic Acid-3,000 mg in the morning
Aromasin 25 mg ed, with last meal of the day (adjust down as needed)
ZMA-3 caps/night
Week 5:
Boron 10mg daily
D-aspartic Acid-3,000 mg in the morning
Aromasin 25 mg ed, with last meal of the day (adjust down as needed)
Toremifene 60mg-ed, at night
ZMA-3 caps/night
Week 6:
Boron 10mg daily
Aromasin 25 mg ed, with last meal of the day (adjust down as needed)
Toremifene 60mg-ed, at night
ZMA-3 caps/night
Week 7-16:
Boron 10mg daily
Toremifene 60mg-ed, at night
ZMA-3 caps/night
^a couple things. HCG has been shown to be quite effective at 500 IU, EOD for 3 weeks. it also has an effect for about a week, hence stopping that for a week prior to the SERM. take the Aromasin along with the HCG, as it will keep total E in control, and adjust it as needed. also, take it with supper, as some guys get drowsy from it, and it is best absorbed with a meal. also, take the Toremifene at night (with your ZMA) as it also makes guys tired and will help ya sleep. and take ZMA, as a deficiency of zinc or magneium can wreck your T levels…
we’re running Toremifene for 12 weeks, as it has been shown to work for that long, as well. and we run Aromasin for a week with Toremifene, to keep E in check while the SERM begins to work…
the D-aspartic Acid seems to help the testes recover as well, but should not be taken for longer than 2 weeks.
If you currently have estrogen related issues, then i would keep the HCG lower (in the 250 IU range), but if not, then i would not be afraid to bump it up…
^you might also wanna toss some vitamin D in there, as that tends to help keep T up and E under control.
depending on where you live and your diet, you might not be getting enough sunlight or D in your diet…
How are you feeling now five months after?
Hmg hcg man read read read
Are you ready to lose most of those gains you made from all the sleepless nights you are about to experience?!
Orange looks good on you brother
Cheers Mate :-)) You are the first one to congratulate me Mr G!!
Ha! I been watching. always thought id'e beat you there but I stepped away and haven't been active .
It's one of the things I can have etched into my coffin - 'An official Expert on steroids' LMFAO
Right
Yeah fuck that
If you’re going for a baby HMG is your best bet. Do some research.
PcushionThis is going to be a very long road. You need to understand you may not be able to have kids anymore, don't freak out I will sell you one of mine :).... lol jk. Your going to a long recovery plan. The HCG will keep you suppressed. That should be used during cycle or during washout prior to pct. If you execute this thing properly you should recover you still have some activity based of your labs. When you see lh and fsh @.1..... The HPG has left the building..
Manateeswimmer5678Recovery will only depend on your body's response to the rebound. Only way to know is via bloodwork. Perhaps discuss another PCT with your doctor. As for getting your wife pregnant, an HCG protocol should work. Definitely make sure to get pharma. AI and HCG/PCT stuff is only pharma for me. No need to risk any bunk stuff.
FENZguyMost of hcg around is bunk!
When i come off the blast and cruise i did 2500iu shots x2 a week for 3 weeks+ 6 weeks pct Worked for me!
You didn't specify how much HCG you are using. If you have real stuff you can try higher doses on HCG and look into HMG
What if anything did you gain from running gear 5 straight years
27yrs and already 5 years on roids, jesus....
Doubling down on the Dallas McCarver cycle style
Mastinos55exactly the same what i thought
It will take a while, but you should recover, will it be in time for when you planned getting your wife pregnant, who knows. This is the result of a "YOLO" way of running AAS. You disregarded this and are now paying the piper. To the newer guys, take heed to this...learn from this fella's mistake, so you wont make the same one.
You can have a baby while using roids (in a blast) or in TRT, there is a big missconception that using roids is like using a condom.
If you look at the charts the male sperm count and quality of it has been going drastically down, if you want to have a baby first do a sperm check (you can buy one in the pharmacy).
Someone published a fertility protocol, you should follow it instead of trying to recover after five years on roids and just stay on TRT (in my opinion).
Btw if you usually drink or smoke that will affect your fertility more than PEDS.
This is very true I have a couple friends who had kids while one gear.. One a trt patient and was taking ment at the time
My wife had a tube removed and i was on a 1000g blast and was gifted with my babygirl. I am 44 with a 2yr old after juicing for years.
Wow on Ment of all things! Lol
No kidding right lol