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Mike Ockisitchy
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Proposed pct for 16 week test cycle

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29 years old
6'1"
245 lbs
14% bf
I'm aiming to be between 8-10%bf before starting next cycle
I have done 3 cycles before the last one being over a year ago
I'm interested in running a test only cycle for 16 weeks at the end of april and would like feedback on my pct protocol.

Week 4-17
Hcg @ 250iu Monday and Thursday
novaldex @ 10mg ed only when/if needed

Week 16-19
Aromasin @ 12.5mg eod

Weeks 18-21
Clomid @ 50mg ed
Novaldex @ 20mg ed

Weeks 21-22
Novaldex @ 10mg ed

Hcg is beifang
Medistar clomid, novaldex, aromasin

Any input would be appreciated because I've crashed hard from previous pct's consisting or arimidex and novaldex
Both products came from svensk apotek ( fucking garbage possibly fake )

italianjob's picture

I have never been a fan of running both clomid and nolva post cycle. I react very well to nolva alone and consider it superior to clomid. Try running nolva at 40mg for the first 2 weeks of pct and then dropping it to 20mg. Lose the clomid and run the aromasin throughout the cycle at 12.5mg eod. If you have gyno problems bump this to everyday, and your hcg regimen looks good.

vocor's picture

I've run nolva only and found it worked for me okay. Everyone is a little different, but the poster said when he ran nolva, he didn't like his PCT. Maybe clomid will be better, or he had fake nolva.

italianjob's picture

I agree pct is very much unique to each person. Some respond very well during pct with minimal drugs and effort and some people need everything in the book to recover correctly.

vocor's picture

my opinion is you have data on your own body that you posted, so I think that's by far the best measuring stick on the need for an AI or not.
Some folks are just more prone to gyno. And, there is some added bulking effect of est too that some folks really want in their cycle.
In my mild test cycles, I use a conservative dose of AI to be safe. Others would do it differently. That's great . . . whatever works personally.
You are being smart by keeping it on hand just in case. Who knows the vials you have next cycle might be a little more strongly doses for some reason, and just at the point you will personally get gyno symptoms, so you have something to help on hand. Good deal.
Finally, depends on your goals. I think AIs are primarily for gyno prevention (that's my usage, primarily), but they can help with "lean gains" due to est suppression. Others want the est for bulking.

Mike Ockisitchy's picture

I was hoping for some feed back on this! Please help me out