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Fertility treatment

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I have been on TRT for 4 years without using hgc 2016-2020 due I did not plan to have children years ago, but now with my current wife, we think about having a child, this year i been using hcg 500-750ui x3 a week for the last 3 months,
My testicle has gained little size, and my amount of sperm increased, I did not make bloods, but when I lost erections half of sex, only using Viagra I had constant erections, I attended a urologist and fertility specialist doctor, the doc told me, suspend the use of hcg and clomid, and zero hormones, we had to let my pituitary and testicles work "naturally"

He prescribed the following for me.
danzen 5mg 1 tablet breakfast and dinner for 15 days hiperikan 300mg 1 tablet with lunch for 1 month

After this treatment i go do bloods
FSH y LH
PROLACTIN
TESTOSTERONE
spermatobioscopy

I am a little puzzled thinking without using hgc how can I be fertility again, let's follow doctor's orders,on 1 month I will do the bloods the doctor order, and successively the treatment that the doc gives me,
and I will post it
I just go add for my self DHEA and Yohimbine
lost muscle mass of course for now I will only try to use clen, I will order hgh that is unique does not suppress testosterone

I will keep posting this hoping it serves other people,

winmag4582001's picture

I’m currently on fertility treatments and off the juice. In my late 20’s-early 30’s a blasted a lot. Now I’m 48 and have been doing a mixture of UGL and prescribed TRT with a few blasts a year for over 3yrs now. My girlfriend who is substantially younger than me wants to have a baby. I’m cool with it since we’ve been together for almost a decade now. In mid September I came off all the drugs and went to a fertility doctor. I gave him my complete, unedited history. There was zero issue or judgement. Because of my age and aas use, he prescribed a pretty aggressive treatment.
I’m currently doing 3000iu HCG 3x a week and 25mg clomid a day, and I do 12.5mg of aromisin 2x every other week. My bloods last week were at:
Total test: 432
Free test: 21
Estrogen: 22.8
Doctor said that’s good and I’ll continue this until mid January when they do the extraction. (I had a vesectomy)
At that level of HCG it took about 4 weeks for my testicles to return to pre TRT size. I’d say they are slightly larger than normal now. Nothing drastic.

What I’ve noticed with this treatment:
GOOD
I’ve maintained a lot of my strength
Muscles have stayed fairly dense
BAD
This shit has KILLED my libido! Zero sex drive!
I’m a moody bitch 24/7
I’m constantly grumpy

The gf loves it when I’m on TRT and blasting. I look great, feel great, positive and always horny. She’s demanding that when I’m done with fertility treatment that I go back on TRT as soon as possible.

MEXVOL's picture

Thanx for share u personal experience, i do 3 month on hcg my testlicles return a normal size,just libido and sex drive are zero.
Im week 2 now of medications,feel great mood and start feeling good libido, wait for finish 4 weeks for do bloods and spermatogenesis

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Makwa's picture

Thanks for relaying your personal experience.

winmag4582001's picture

I’ve pumped a lot of things into my body over the years, but high dose HCG is one of the only things that has made me an asshole.
I’m curious to see if I still produce sperm. There’s a chance, because of my age and usage, that I might produce a little test naturally but no sperm.
I’ve used smaller amounts of HCG in the past as part of PCT.
I’d just like to warn younger guys or anyone who might ever consider children to be careful of the amounts you use. If you know for a fact you don’t want to have or have more kids, blast away.

Makwa's picture

I am not a urologist so I would say follow his directions because he is the expert. It is worth a shot.

Now here is my bro opinion. Your doc is taking the most precautious and conservative route. Essentially lets get you off of everything and see if you can naturally recover. I doubt it but who knows it may work. You are going to feel like absolute dogshit while he tries his little experiment. I personally would have told that doc to kick rocks and go get a different opinion. HCG/HMG combo is a proven method and the way to go in my opinion. Can take up to 6 months or more though. Some docs will even allow you be on a TRT regimen so you don't feel like shit and can at least get it up and actually be able to have sex.

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I thinking the same bro him going to take few months complete off,i do 3 months on hcg and testicles return a normal size but sex drive was down, 2 week on treatment and feel good mood and im available have sex,not strong erections like viagra but i gues normal, some mornings wake up with erection, I feel like it lasted longer to come
i do blood in 4 weeks and after the doc see the results,go see what hi change o add to the treatment,
DHEA and Yohimbine works definitely,add some proviron u think goin affect?

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wanted's picture

Ive pushing this idea back and forth about trying this technique along with proviron. But this is the first i heard of staying on trt dose wich would make it soo much better.

Pushing Iron 87's picture

Defo good to give what the doc has prescribed a go and fingers crossed it works. If not hcg is definitely good option just a suggestion but if you try all these and still have no luck be worth giving HMG a go havent used it myself but through general research have seen it to be highly effective in helping male fertility it increases the sperm count on top of the things hcg does. Good luck and wish you all the best hope all works out for you m8.

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Yes bro i have HMG on mind, but i keep for the next few months what the doc prescribed.
2 day on danzen and hiperikan, feel in good mood,relax,positive,I start to feel an increase in libido this morning

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Pushing Iron 87's picture

That's really good m8. Just remembered another couple of natural things that are really good for libido are High dose Vit D and ZMA lots of men are deficient in these without supplementing.

MEXVOL's picture

Yeah i go add some vitamin D to ,i take add already vitamin C 2gr, DHEA 25mg and Yohimbine 6mg a day

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Rustyhooker's picture

Will be interesting to see how it goes. Others ran trt and hcg etc.

MEXVOL's picture

I am currently in my country, Mexico, I thought I would continue with minimal hcg, but hey let's follow doctor protocol, 1 month do an analysis we will see what it says when him see the results, it seems somehow maybe the medicines gave me is not to fall into depression by having low levels of testosterone and somehow help to have properties in sexual matters, let's follow the instructions and we will see where this leads us

I did a search for the drugs, it seems they are natural non-synthetic origin
Hiperikan 300mg

HIPERIKAN INDICATIONS

An indication is a term used for the list of condition or symptom or illness for which the medicine is prescribed or used by the patient. For example, acetaminophen or paracetamol is used for fever by the patient, or the doctor prescribes it for a headache or body pains. Now fever, headache and body pains are the indications of paracetamol. A patient should be aware of the indications of medications used for common conditions because they can be taken over the counter in the pharmacy meaning without prescription by the Physician.

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Herbal preparations containing Hiperikan are used, frequently for self-medication, in the treatment of depression. Such preparations are also promoted for the treatment of other nervous disorders such as insomnia and anxiety, particularly if associated with the menopause.

Hypericin, a major constituent of Hiperikan, has been investigated as an antiviral in the treatment of HIV infection and AIDS.

Hiperikan has been used in homoeopathic preparations.

HIPERIKAN DOSAGE

1 tab daily 1 hr before bedtime for 4-6 wk.

HIPERIKAN INTERACTIONS

Hiperikan has been shown to induce several drug metabolising enzymes including some cytochrome P450 isoenzymes (in particular CYP3A4) and the transport protein P-glycoprotein.

There is also a theoretical possibility of an interaction between Hiperikan and antiepileptics such as carbamazepine), phenobarbital and phenytoin. In addition, stopping Hiperikan may result in increased, and possibly toxic, concentrations of the interacting drug.

HIPERIKAN SIDE EFFECTS

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Adverse effects reported with Hiperikan have included gastrointestinal symptoms, dizziness, headache, confusion, urinary frequency, allergic reactions, and fatigue. Photosensitivity has also been reported; hypericin and pseudohypericin are the constituents of Hiperikan thought to be responsible for this reacción.

Danzen 5mg

Description

General Introduction:

DanzenTablet contains Serratiopeptidase as an active ingredient. Danzen Tablet works by helping the body in breakdown of protein.

Benefits:

• Danzen 5mg Tablet helps to relieve moderate to severe pain in conditions that affect joints and muscles.

• Danzen 5mg Tablet will relieve any pain or inflammation which may be present with the swelling in case of any inflammatory conditions or after surgery.

Ingredients:

  • Active ingredient: serratiopeptidase

Direction of Use:

Adults: Oral, 1 – 2 tablets three times daily, or as directed. Follow all directions given by your doctor and pharmacist carefully. 

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Molinin302's picture

This took an unexpected turn...

MEXVOL's picture

Sure, more vigororexia affects right now alot, but everything is for being a father again

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Molinin302's picture

Good for you buddy, I'm definitely a fan of any natural options that are effective. Best wishes to you and your family. I can say HCG definitely improved my volume, but as far as sperm count I couldn't say. Hope it all goes well for you.

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thanks brother, keep posted everything on this treatment

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