posted Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:37
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Clomid and Arimidex?? Help please
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I recently ordered four bottles of Andromix (50mg test prop, 50mg tren ace, 50mg dros) as well as some winstrol 10mg tabs. I also ordered clomid and arimidex for my PCT. Are these the correct substances I should be using and if not what should I be? I have researched and came across many conflicting views. Should I be taking HCG intra cycle to keep my natural test production from completely shutting down or does this not make any sense? I plan on on running 2cc of the andromix eod and 50mg winstrol ed during the last three weeks. Any advice would be greatly appreciated please as I want to do this correctly this time.
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Ok did some more research. Going to use an AI during cycle (arimidex) as well as caber. Post cycle, from what I've researched it seems like using toremifene citrate and clomid would be my best bet. If anyone can verify this or tell me something i'm missing or doing wrong I'd greatly appreciate it!!
Ok then. This is why I posted this question in the first place. I would really prefer not to "hurt myself" so any advice you could shoot my way would be greatly appreciated. The aforementioned cycle was a predesigned cycle I bought from a source I found on this site. In my twenties I messed around with various testosterone compounds such as Durateston 250, Cypionate, etc. Whatever the guys in the locker room could get their hands on. I played college football and no one knew what the hell they were doing. I have also taken "tren" if you will by converting Finiplix pills using kits we got online. I realize all this shit was dumb but I was a kid and now I'm looking to do it right so any help would greatly be appreciated.
Im 35 5'7" 205 pounds and 18% body fat. This is my first "real" cycle meaning that I actually give a fuck about my health this time around and want to do it correctly. I posted this question because I wanted to get posative feed back and advice on where to research proper PCT therapy. In my 20s I messed around with various tests because I played college ball and it was the thing to do. Nobody knew what the hell they were doing. We also had access to hundreds of finiplex pills and we used the kits to make our own "tren"!! I have a BS in Kiniesiology and know how to train and to diet but know very little about the intricacies of a proper cycle. This cycle was a predesigned cycle I bought from a source I found on this site.
MetalgearHCG will not help you from the HTPA shut down. Shut down means your Pituitary gland isnt secreting no more LH or FSH precursors of Test and germ cells/ Spermogenisis. HCG will just keep ur balls from shrinking be uase of the HCG simularity to LH making your testis secrete Testosterone and make sperm... Its the sperm that makes ur balls have volume..dont get that twisted.
And a PCT should have Nolvadex included cuase it has a synergenic Theraputic effect for increasing Natural LH and FSH secretions.and HCG is also reccomended for PCT as well.
Dude have you done any research on Tren?? Did you know it shrinks your adrenals??
Do you know what the adrenals importance is in ur body?
Also its a progestin meaning affecting ur prostagladins and creating an endocrine secretion of Prolactin.. Wheres your Pramipexole or Caber????
You sound very knowledgeable and I appreciate you taking the time to help me. Can you either explain what you would do for PCT if you were to take the above mentioned cycle or let me know where the best place to research this information?? It can be extremely overwhelming and I feel like I need a degree in chemistry to understand most of it. Thanks
From the research I've read I've heard you are not suppose to use Nolva when doing 19nor cycles as it may increase estrogen??
MetalgearAlso get Prami or Caber
Test see what works for you best
You need to control Prolaction
Tren is a progestin it effects ur prostagladins and other endocrine factors
MetalgearI have no experience with Tren and i didnt know that nolvadex would do that to you with 19nor.
But your doing Tren Ace that has a half life of 2-3days so if you injected for example 100mg 2x a week .
By day 9 ur tren levels should be at 75mg due to Half Life rule.
So u can start Nolvadex to be safe 2weeks after last pin into your planned PCT time
which will be an Ai like Aromasin or Arimidex , Clomid and 1000iu of HCg a week.
By then the Nolvadex 19nor reaction your talking of, will not occur(again i havnt read that but if thats true the half life rule will help u implemente it in there.)
The rule of Thumb of PCT is clomid 100/50/50/50
Hcg 1000iu a week(4-5weeks)
Add your Nolvadex after calculating your Tren Half Life 40/40/20/20(Nolva)
And dose Ai what works for you everybody different get bloods during cycle to see how Ai is working.
Good luck stay strong
Thanks for the advice man I appreciate it!
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RustyhookerBoth guys below got ya....
whats your stats man? experience with what compounds, age, weight, height, body-fat? then guys can gage what you need to do
Thanks man I posted my stats. So from what I understand Tren is something that should not be taken on a first cycle?? I am not looking to take a lot of gear and I wanted something that would help lean me out and give me that hard look. I train balls to wall, have a degree in kiniesiology and have been training intensely and substance free for over five years. I've been training since I was 13 and started playing football and fell in love with the iron. Any other substances that would achieve what I'm looking for?
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