posted Thu, 10/24/2013 - 13:08
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advice would appreciated!
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I want to run Test prop 50mg ed, Tren Ace 50mg ed, and Mast 50mg ed. I will be taking an AI (arimidex) and caber to counteract prolactin sides. I have torimifene and clomid for PCT. Am I missing anything or doing anything wrong? Cycle will only be between 4-6 weeks as I do not like or feel the need to do anything longer. I am new to doing thing the right way but not new to AAS. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated!!
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I would just ask what your goals are for the cycle in terms of BF reduction? If that 18% BF is correct, it's gonna come down sure, but in 4-6 weeks not sure where you want/expect it to be.
I would like to get down to 10 -12% BF. Right now I am just eating everything in site so when I start eating clean and doing cardio do you think this is doable? I also have a ton of clenbuterol I planned on adding.
Well, let's see. This is at 100,000 feet. At 18% BF your lean body mass is 171. At 12% BF your body weight is 192, so you need to loose 10 pounds of fat. If your daily minimum caloric intake, is (for example only - u would have to calculate this) is 3,500 and u reduced your calories by 500 a day - u would drop 6 lbs in 6 weeks - double that to 1,000 calories below minimum and you would loose 12 lbs in 6 weeks. So, yes, it's doable. I'm not taking into account any recomp from the steroid stack, etc. so my math is worst case. I was just looking at the anabolics as muscle preserving while you are on an aggressive diet. You may not even need the clen.
according to his profile
Age: 35
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 202lbs
BF: %18 via skin fold method
as long as your diet is good (low carb, no carb, carb cycling ) and you do tons of cardio ..you should be good no need for arimidex.. masteron act as an AI and keeps your estrogen levels in check...
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unless he has bloods to prove this which he doesnt, having never run tren or mast, their is NO way to tell that no ai is needed for the cycle.
he needs to get bloods before cycle during cycle and after cycle
Having never ran a PLANNED cycle these compounds are a bad idea!
Ok can you tell me why exactly these compounds are a bad idea?? I don't necessarily have to run these compounds its just that they were 50% off and I got an amazing deal so I jumped on it. And I HAVE run tren, in the form of finniplex and got great results and very little noticeable side effects. I want to get lean that is my main objective. Having a BS in Kiniesiology and a minor in nutrition as well as being a CSCS I know how to train and eat. Any suggestions on what comnpounds I should be using.
I say this bc planning is a MUST
with a bs in Kiniesiology you know its importance, can go to the gym without a plan, can get results from a diet without a plan, feel me?
I would get bloods before to see where you estro is, then once gear is kicked in get more bloods so you can see where estrogen is and combat it if needed
as far as not needing ai bc of mast isnot good advice, for some this may be true for other not. Only way to tell is with bloods feel me?
you say your previous cycles were un planned
running tren for a full cycle needs to have all plans set in place so their is no surprises, caber, ai, diet, etc don't wanna get aught with your pants down with a compound like tren
I have never ran tren but I know from my research here that one should only run it if they
A. have ran most other compounds and know what each does to them in contrast to their own personal body so you know what compound is doing what while your running it
B. have started to plateau with other compounds and need very high doses to get same or better results so one turns to tren which can give great results at relatively low doses
C. Has a looooooong term goal in this lifestyle, if one simply wants to pack on a few lean pounds of muscle for summer to look good for the beach, you can achive this with diet and excersize and sleep, maybe some test to aid in recovery ;)
I would try PLANNING a cycle with a compound or two that you have much experience with from start to finish before trying something like this stack of test tren and mast that is evenly dosed......do you know how your body reacts best to tren:test ratios low test high tren? even ? etc without knowing this a tren stack is a bad idea, especially considering you have never ran them at the same time
Great advice, makes sense. Aprreciate it bro. thank you
Good point about the masteron. I just have the arimidex on hand. Do you think the clomid and torem is the way to go for PCT?
yessir i love clomid/nolva post cycle but as you cycles get more aggressive so should your pct in order to prevent shut down
to properly address this thread, we should start with you stats. age, height, weight, body fat, and cycle history. how long have you been training, and have you had any experience with nor 19's in the past?
My stats are posted I thought. I am 35 5'7" 205 lbs and 18% BF. I have messed around with test compounds in the past such as cyp, sustanon etc but have never planned a cycle and cared about doing it correctly. I played college ball and just did whatever was around. I have used tren by converting finiplex pills before but thats it. Have never done PCT. I have a BS in kiniesiology from UNH and have been training for twenty years and have learned from body builders and powerlifters so my training is solid. There is so much to learn and research that its overwhelming and wanted all the advice I could get before I start. Thanks for everything!! I love this site and everyone is so helpful.