Your thoughts?
Hey all,
Been a while, I have 2 cycles under my belt. Both were successful. You can check my pics and past cycle logs. Unfortunately after my second bulker I developed a bad case of tendonitis in my right shoulder and was planning 1 more to cut and see my results in all there greatness lol (I got if bad in my left the year before. I just seem prone) a year and a half has passed my shoulder is healed. My bloods are the best they have ever been. With my test being 804 vs prior to my first cycle of 500,s. Obviously I haven’t held onto all I gained over my two runs due to having to take some time off. But I’m back at it very happy with my physic based on what I have had to do. My issue is this....I would like to do 1 more bulker and a final cut. Which was the plan from the beginning. But being that my bloods are tip top for me atleast. I have some slight worry that if I did do another two I wouldn’t recover back to this natural state. I take adequate time off between cycles and do bloods regularly even when not on cycle. I only plan on doing test both times 1 bulk / 1 cut since my body seems to act funny on anything else lol. My first run was at 27 spaces out and I’m gonna turn 30 at the beginning of year and would like to hear if anyone else has had these fears.
Much appreciated on any responses from long time cyclers and some that are in my same range as well.
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Food, water, weights, sleep and fun in any order. Just don't beat yourself up over which one first
Hmmm. 2 cycles under belt.
Near the bottom you wrote " my body seems to act funny on anything else"
What did those previous cycles entail drug wise then?
Other than that well done for getting bloods done although I don't know how many bloods you would pull for two cycles " best they have ever been"
You need to weigh up your own life and decide if its worth the risks and how it will affect your body, think long and hard about it.
Good luck.
2 cycles both test. The first I tried to add t-bol and it bothered me. The second I tried to add NPP and it gave me the worst anxiety ever. Both I only took for about 2-3 weeks and had bad reactions so I dropped them. So both cycles I would say were mainly test, adex, and of course a solid pct.
I pulled bloods two times during cycle. Including once before when I was natural. I get my bloods relatively often even now after a year and half off cycle. So What I mean by best they ever been is my current bloods just about 2 weeks ago. My values were better than naturally before I had ever done gear.
I appreciate it. I am definitely weighing everything. Before making a choice. I’m glad I came here to post lol helps me weigh my decision. With the insight.
To me you wether do it properly and don’t do it all. If lifting weights, progressing and competing is your all your life then you plan your life around this. If however you plan to run couple cycles to look decent on the beach, then I would not touch hormones at all.
I was planning on competing but had an injury during my off time after bulk. It has always been a dream of mine. But taking this year off has me thinking more about the consequences. The jury is still out. I’m weighing my options and goals. I have a Gf now so I’m weighing that as well. Lol since most of the time women ain’t to fond of this type of stuff.
Whatever your decision is going to be, just want to wish you a good luck with whatever you’re doing man!!!
When i was cycling and doing PCT I used a lot of HCG in my time off. I barely noticed a drop off in natural numbers. I only did the HCG intermittently for a month or 6 weeks after going off cycle. It seemed to make a great difference! IMHO
Any cycle has the chance of frying your hpta. There are things you can do to minimize that chance but it is still a roll of the dice. Every cycle does seem to chip away at your natty levels when you do recover. 10 points here 30 points there, it can add up rather quickly. Be sure to reassess your goals to make sure it is worth the chance.
Thanks Makwa. Will do.
Great way to approach and describe cycles. 10 pts here 30 pts there HPTA. Theres a price for everything.
HustleMuscleRusty is right food makes a bulk or a cut . Some compounds are harder to recover from than others and cause a more harsh shut down . Stats , cycle etc needed to advise .
But if your levels are good and still gaining why not try and gain naturally until you hit a wall ? Increase intake for the bulk and decrease for the cuts changing the ratio of proteins ; carbs and fats .
And again as rusty has said pharma PCT
I wouldn’t be using anything but test. I tried to run a little t bol first cycle. Made me feel weird. And NPP second gave me horrrible anxiety. I don’t want to risk any probs so test it is. With adex and pharma pct. based off my levels and people’s responses. I’ll prob bulk this go natural and see how that goes then decide based on my gains and if I decide to attempt this local show. Thanks for the reply.
RustyhookerCut or bulk is food dude. As far as recovery, pharma pct is the best bet. Will it be fully? Too many factors to list bro.
Post your current stats and plans. End goal?
Thanks rusty. I understand cut and bulk. I’m more asking what people’s recovery has been after let’s say 4 cycles test only. My goal is compete. It’s always been a dream. But I know it’s not my profession. So yea.
Stats
5’7
175
11-12% bf (body caliper)
Plans would be two more test cycles, adex and pct of course. One bulk and a final cut for a local show. End goal would be compete and then recover to full or very close to. Reaccess my goals afterwards.
RustyhookerIf competing is your goal not to be a dick but your natty stats are light. I got sponsored at 5-4 160 @ sub6%. And that was 100% drug free. No prohormones, no cheats, only food.
If you want it you can get it but you gonna BE IT 24/7. Every meal, every gym session full blast.
Only you can do this. And thinking its gonna be a cycle or two isnt real. Take a close look at the lightweight class and figure theyre 165 and below at stage weight. Sub 6% and water dropped. So off season....190ish??? And thats still sub 10.
Jump in with a daily food bible. Mark every calorie, meal, workout, and REST. Spring and summer shows 2019.... find a local and bust ass!! See exactly where you are at 20 weeks out. Its you and your focus. Get it bro! You can do it!!
Thanks bro. Yea I hit a wall at 192. But that was with gear lol. I’ll do more work this winter and see what I come with. Appreciate the feedback and knowledge.
RustyhookerHitting wall with gear should tell ya outright that research is needed. Good luck sir! Enjoy
I will answer these once home tonight. Thank you for the response.