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+ 4 WHAT IS YOUR #1 FAVORITE STEROID?

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As of right now Im loving NPP..Great strength gains fills my traps out like no others,, with no sides.I stay lean on NPP still veiny. but get a lot bigger..NO SIDES...

I see so many people on this forum digging tren..But that shit is straight up poison on your system.SIDES,SIDES ,SIDES.

So what is your #1 choice and why?

The Impastable's picture

You ever plan on writing a book one day?

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

maybe when i get old and have fuck-all to do all day?

im house bashing so busy as fuck again bro........

The Impastable's picture

So you've got 50% of the requirements already... hahaha.

Better to be busy with work than not be busy no? Sitting at home on your rocking chair would turn you senile!

Curious about IMT use and it's effects... not sure if the open forums are the place to discuss it though.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

lol..... no rocking chairs for me bro,, still active just like i was still 30...... age is just a number when physically fit it doesnt fkn matter one bit ..... plus i am Irish! you know we were born to graft until we drop!

Regarding open forum........... there are hundreds of fuckers destroying themselves with cheap orals on here much more than anything i could talk about....... its not any specific compound that is at fault, its the fkn jokers that abuse them...... if i do show any sign of being a grumpy old cunt it will be the fact that that i really dont give two shits about ANY person that misuses, or fails to show any respect to his/her long term health.

RECONAKERS's picture

I agree with viking health is what all this is about and if you need to abuse yourself and hurt yourself to get gains then that's just dumb. Im all about taking supplements but youre the only person who is going to take care of yourself.

The Impastable's picture

Oh, I work for an irish outfit so I have firsthand experience with Irish graft!

As to the open forum, it's been pretty miserable lately with some of the cycles and ideas that are being thrown out there. I've pretty much sunk back into the shadows and just observe the wild ideas, fuckers will do as they please so I'm really not going to lose sleep over it... so here goes.

You mentioned using MT pre-contest, and I'm assuming right up until the date of the show, or pretty close to it. Now I know how potent MT is, and the 3-4 max time run with it or else you shit your liver out. What dosage worked for you? I've read about guys (albeit on other fora) who've been successful with 400-500mcg and then others who've gone up to 1-2g of this stuff... clearly there is a discrepancy whether it's the actual concentration by various UGLs and tolerance... Would it even be feasible to run this on a 2on2off regime, obviously on liver supporting supplements the whole time but at even higher dosages during the off part? And if it technically is feasible, being that this is a pre-contest drug, would it even make sense doing such a regime (I have truly ZERO idea about what anything remotely contest related looks like).

I've no need for this drug, probably ever... but I do love learning about all of these various applications of them. I guess it's how we all have that one friend who has all the weirdest tidbits of knowledge, from the weirdest topics... I'm that friend haha.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I personally had great results from only 1mg (2000mcgs) pr day right up to show day..... high level events are usually morning pre-judging and an evening show including results!.. being water based i have pinned this with anadrol around midday on days like that and stayed in good nick for that late comparison round..... i have used it with tren ace and on its own with mast prop... i think the times i have used it with tren i went overkill and the bad sides (jaundice) are really not worth it!....... i found for me MT/mast prop works fantastic..... 2on 2off is pointless because we want the impact of this stuff for show day, being test free at this stage the two compounds really show their strengths... the drol is purely for intra-muscular water to push forwards ( on carb loading phase with drol i can add inches to what previously were depleted/flat muscle bellies.................... now!....... we also used MT with SuzyB and she did great on just 500mcgs..... one time we hit her with 1mg pr day and she looked like she had been skinned!.... that was overkill because judges said she was too ripped??????....... that dose gave big hair problems that took two years to correct...... so yeah! finding the sweet (personal) spot is crucial because this stuff can do so much damage............. strangely unlike normal tren derivatives, this stuff does not make me sweat! in fact the complete opposite... even when posing hard.. no sweating.. which again is a clear indicator it is effecting the body in a real strange way, thank fuck its only a 4wk thing... and getting off is like a "Phew" moment.

In my eyes.... absolutely no reason for anyone to use unless competitive, and even then i good knowledge base of virtually every other compound and cycle care is essential.

From the years when my comp prep arrays used to contain around 7/8/9/10 different compounds..... finding MT and experimenting how it worked best for me brought my pre array down to simply 3 items....... ( not including my water stack which i class as a totally different thing, what most guys use for Ai.......... i use a stacked combo instead of lasiks which makes me feel like dying)............. hope that helped you in some way Smile

Like everything else........ it will affect everyone differently im sure, buts my experience with the Devil juice lol.

Makwa's picture

I ran it 1500mcg with mast p.....very nice
Same dose with tren a....not so nice
Didn't see any added benefit with tren a just more overall feeling of impending doom. Seems to be a synergistic effect with mast. I'm going to go real light on the orals next go around with it. MT/mast/adrol seem to be the ticket.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

seriously bro... we have spoken before about the importance of a simplistic easy maintainable prep stack... this has to it for me, i leaves me free to concentrate on eating and training right, instead of head spinning multi-compound daily (hourly) pinning regimes............ you are like me, you will think deep about synergy, half life cleave etc....... just brain power gets it right with the array............. the rest is just graft, training comes easy to me i love it... concentration on multi- meals especially prep type meals is when i have to really switch on.

The Impastable's picture

Thank you for sharing Vike. Always enjoy reading your personal experiences with things and they always manage to teach me something new.

Is a water stack basically filling your muscle bellies back up after they've been dehydrated?

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

the opposite bro.......... i should have explained better, i use the stack for water depletion up until the carb load phase......... a combo of ai compounds with high dose vitC and slow K.......... i dont want to talk about that here due to it being dangerous as fuck to mess with potassium levels ;/.... if the gym rats here start fucking with what i wrote we could have some potential deaths here.

The Impastable's picture

Completely understand. Once i manage to do some more in depth reading about depletion maybe I'll have a few questions to send your way.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

ok...................... im out now bro, i need to shower and eat........................ catch you later Smile

Makwa's picture

Ssshhhhh......don't let the cat out of the bag.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

To save me typing a load of info i,ll just drop this link for you to get a brief synopsis of what MT is all about.............. you love NPP so with MT being 19nor also it may interest you at some stage further into your Bodybuilding life bro........ just be real careful with it though.

https://forums.t-nation.com/t/methyltrienolone/107324

ChickenBirdOfGains's picture

Testosterone

irongame427's picture

Why hgh? I'm a gh addict I love the stuff, but I'll b the first to admit its results to cost ratio is fucked for the majority of us. It does not do half of what it should for how expensive it is. Definitely would be the first thing to go if money got really tight. I could get a 16 week pharm grade test deca dbol cycle for the cheaper then a months worth of gh.

growthman's picture

X2

irongame427's picture

5ius ed of pharm grade gh is gonna cost on the low end 700 bucks a month, that's if you have a great connect most don't, high end 1200 a month. Definitely not worth paying that much to have nice looking skin lol. I've been on it for a few years now, I'm young enough that my skin still looks nice and so does my hair etc so the anti aging is kinda worthless to me. It's good for cutting, you can get into the singles easier then without it, can eat more good tasting food. If your competeting I'm sure it makes getting down below 5% bf easier. And it definitely gives your physique a different type of look. Bulking you stay a little leaner. Maybe gain a little more muscle with it, and for healing injuries nothing beats it, I also think it helps me avoid injury too. So it's got some benefits, not sure if those few benefits justify the cost. I can gain more muscle with 1 vial of test, say 250mgs ew for 10 weeks then hgh has put on me since I started a few years ago. It's just not a muscle builder by itself. And it's an overpriced fat burner, but I still run it for some odd reason.

Gymjunkie01's picture

Mine is lots and lots of food most anabolic substance in the world

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xflipside's picture

Sometimes I wish getting all the necessary calories in was as easy as injecting into your glute lol

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Gymjunkie01's picture

That's the hardest part of everything

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PPGfreak's picture

Also the most expensive lol

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shiva4's picture

oh for sure. when I see people complaining about blood work being expensive I think to myself.... blood work? blood work monthly is less than 9% of my monthly food bill....

IrishMack's picture

95% of everyone here and everywhere else do not do bloodwork. The most IMPORTANT aspect of any cycle. It should go like this
1. Food
2. Training
3. AAS
4. Bloodwork.

But we all see it is not the case, normally we see 3,2,1 and never 4. My favorite AAS is good d fashioned human made testosterone. Since I no longer have it its test because I only try to impress myself and when I go to the gym I train ME. I never want to be the guys that stare in the mirror and weigh 70 pounds BUT they have abs. Or the low self esteem guy that does grams of gear because he thinks girls like the big muskells amd guys will be afraid of them because of the big muskells. You are still an ugly pussy but you look like your in good shape LOL.
Anyways +2 for bloods, keep doing it the right way!

Gymjunkie01's picture

Honestly not jack your thread just being honest lol

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PPGfreak's picture

Testosterone is all I need to really cut or bulk and keep making gains. If that doesn't count than I'm going with tren ace.

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livingthedream's picture

If assuming TRT doesn't count, Tren Ace all the way. Strength, definition, sex drive, nutrient uptake, muscle sparing, etc

If TRT does count then Test is the no brainer for me.