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Preparing tren run. So…test at a 2 to 1 ratio or tren higher than test? Which and why? Your results? Thanks.
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Preparing tren run. So…test at a 2 to 1 ratio or tren higher than test? Which and why? Your results? Thanks.
My input probably won't help much... but 2wks into a test/dbol/tren cycle and I've gotta say, I havn't been on tren in a couple yrs... so I forgot just how fucking ridiculously awesome it is.
Doing 400mg/wk test blend, 40mg/day dbol, and 75mg/eod tren ace. Only 2wks in and veins are popping up in places I've NEVER had them EVER... getting super lean, noticeably every day (even tho I'm naturally lean to begin with), and even tho I'm using the dreaded bloat dbols. And strength is goin up up up.
One mistake I did make was using too much exemestane (25mg/day!!)... I crashed my estro hard. Sex drive was phenomenal for the 1st wk (was bustin out 4 nuts a day), but tired/sluggish, and zero desire for sex the last few days. Gonna lay off the stane for a few days and see what happens.
So I guess the point of my pointless post was.... 75mg/eod tren has always given me great results w/ no sides that Ive ever noticed. And I always like to keep the test a lil higher than tren dose. Works for me... but as said ya really need to try a few diff approaches to see what works best for you. 75/eod is a good starting point. Good luck and enjoy!!!!
Have to find your sweet spot. Seems everyone is different. Post stats etc etc etc
Don't worry about receptors or ratios or any of that nonsense.
Bottom line start as low as possible. Like 250mg per week test and 350mg per week tren. If all is well stay here. If sex drive is low increase test. You can try upping tren to 75mg per day but keep test around 50mg per day.
Now is where you need to determine your "ratio". If your sex drive is shitty and you just feel low on test, increase test to about 500mg or same dose as tren.
Personally my favorite ratio is 75mg test/100mg tren per day. Or 50 test/75 tren. so I likes the 1.5 or 1.3 ratio. For me having tren 2x the test dose just doesn't feel as good. I prefer being close to 1.5 ratio it keeps libido strong and I feel very levelheaded. When test gets too low you feel off or tired sometimes. If test is too high you start going a little crazy, may end up flipping out on people or having road rage or just having a short fuse. This is what you want to avoid.
So in my opinion 1.5:1 is perfect ratio of tren to test for me.
You need to find what works best for you. It can be different than a given ratio that most people follow because you are not most people only you can decide what works best for you. You are running an advanced compound after all you need to be able to figure these things out on your own.
Thank you very much for taking the time to touch on this. I appreciate it bro.
tren higher than test, as tren occupies the bulk of receptors, as stated elsewhere tren will fight test and in the end tren will beat the shit out of him, you running tren a or tren e or what???????
There's plenty of receptors to go around for both lol there's no fighting for them. It's funny how a lot of people keep repeating this theory around. If anything tren is even more effective with more test and especially estrogen in your system. The problem? Sides become even more noticeable as well.
tren wont overpower test in terms of androgen reception, but tren does have a stronger binding ability to test, meaning it will bind alot quicker and more securely to the androgen receptor than test, therefore it is waste of test and money to run the test higher than tren, yes tren is the stronger out of the two and yes it does revolve around anabolic/ androgenic ratios, this imformation is fairly new to the world of aas, it is not like running deca with the 2-1 ratio anymore, dont come at me again bro because i dont care if your a mod in the auzzi kiwi page, i cancelled my membership in there because your a douche, i simply tried giving you advice on one of your many ridiculous posts now you want to call me out lmao!!! i prefer the americans/and british over you guys anyway they actually help a brother out!!!! good luck in the future mate hope you have fun on your primo cycle lol homer hahaha
Anonim not a huge tren fan because of the rage it gives( check you and mujs trainwreck of a debate out for instance)..I always thought at your ratio tren was for cutting up and higher dose of test and tren was for mass?
could be wrong, anyways you crazy aussie kids play nicely...
well yes, it is a train wreck unfortunately, I lost karma over it lol, that's fine im getting a mod to review it!!
Anonlooks like you lost nothing bruv,believe it or not that muj cunt actually knows what hes on about..you mite learn a few tricks if you ask nicely..he happens to be nice guy too..all the best dont get so defensive as we are all in the same boat!
yeah looks like it magically reappeared!! ive sent frs mate, send me one we will chat!!! I just don't like being treated like trash for stating proven studies, I know a few other blokes on here that would agree with me %100 pity there not online!! its not fair the way I was treated!! im all good!!!
No one treated you badly? I simply stated what I know and what I've found through experience and you made it personal and got defensive. You could of just stated your points in a debatable manner.
pm me
if you lost karma then it was from someone else with over 50 karma. not your buddy below lol
Haha wow you been holding all of that in? love you too bro. Tren does have a stronger affinity but it doesn't mean that they fight for the same receptors and therefore the test just becomes useless. Otherwise pros wouldn't be running 3-4 g of test along with 2+ g of tren. There's plenty of receptors for both and the more gear you use the more receptors that are created. It is better to run tren higher than test purely for side effect reasons and because higher test can make the look that gives less noticeable. It's the way I run tren these days too. The best gains I've achieved were when I ran test at a higher dose than tren, but the side effects became too much and I had to stop the cycle. It's also an individual thing and to what a certain person responds to the best. There's plenty of people that run equal doses or higher test at even high doses with no problems and with great gains. I can't be bothered looking for it now but there's a very good study that shows Tren is a lot more effective in mass gain with estrogen present. Anyway that's all I'll say because that's pretty much all your pathetic reply deserves. Don't get so defensive and personal princess. It's funny that you say that since I'm one of the most helpful people there even though I barely post anyway. I'm not on trt, I blast and cruise and actually come completely off quite often. But it's just easier to say I'm on trt to avoid the stupid follow up questions from noobs. Anyway thanks for the compliments I'm sure I'll have a very good future continuing to make money from my physique and attracting sponsorships, I'm sure I'll have plenty of fun running primo
Wow I agree 100%. mujeriego knows what he's talkin about!!
It is true, tren binds stronger to androgen receptors but the body does an amazing thing and synthesizes new androgen receptors allowing more androgen binding. This is a slower process but that's one reason why pros have worked up to high dosages with at least a gram of tren and test each and much higher.
I also agree not everyone has bad tren sides when test is higher BUT it's an individual thing, and typically higher tren lower test has a reputation of being low on side effects. You are right with estrogen present tren gains are much higher that is true with studies to back it. That is why farmers now include estrogen in their trenbolone therapy to beef up cattle to produce not only increased lean mass but the estrogen helps increase total weight overall for cattle prior to slaughter more than tren alone.
PURE ARROGANCE!!!! LOL I TOLD YOU NOT TO COME AT ME AGAIN BRO! SEND ME A FR AND COME AT ME THROUGH PM BRO, IT DOESNT BELONG HERE!!!!!
You started with the insults and I'm the arrogant one lol strong logic. Come at me? another zyzz/jersey shore wannabe. Waste of my time kid.
fr sent- NOT FOR BULLSHIT MATE I MEAN COME AT ME ABOUT THE TREN THING!!! IM BEING REAL BRO I WANT TO LISTEN
Ah ok, well between what I wrote and what j223 said that's pretty much the basics man. Unless you have more questions can keep them here might be useful for someone looking.
accept my request mate, im being real!!!
well go do some research and find out then mate, you think your answers rite? must be why your on trt and losing hair hey bro lol
i would run 2 to 1 test to tren. reason beeing tren suppresses your sex drive. feels like shut down. if you run test higher it will help bulk, the tren will give added strength to think of it as nitrous for your strength on higher test. also helps offset shut down feeling from tren if you have a gf or have sex on the regular its important otherwise she may wonder whats going on lol
wrong!!!
I'm sorry but this is complete bullshit. I'm running tren right now with no test, and my sex drive is great.
To answer the OP, there is no one answer to your question, try it both ways and see what works better for u.
Well then I will try running Tren and test at 1:1 next cycle and even try increasing Tren higher than test :). Going to be adding Tren soon to my cycle
Thank you for taking the time to chime in brotha.
agreed!!!
High tren with trt dose of test.
i love this. running 100mg ED with none of these crazy ass sides people complain about...