posted Sat, 05/10/2025 - 18:10
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Thoughts or experiences on DHB ?
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I’m interested in hearing anyone’s thoughts or personal experience with DHB, it sounds like a pretty cool compound but I’ve heard that some guys get some pretty crazy liver/lipid skewing and some guys say they see nothing out of range on bloodwork when they use it. I’m also wondering if it has any AI effect like eq or primo. I know the pip can be pretty brutal but I’ve seen it called “diet tren” or the cosmetic effects of mast/primo/eq all combined into one compound. It just seems like people say it’s either super toxic , or it does nothing on bloodwork and it’s basically tren without the side effects lol.
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For me the dhb is making my appetite insane.. I’ll wake up in the middle of the night and eat everything in sight
Currently running 480 test / 480 dhb / 180 deca (for joints) per week & 50 tbol daily. Despite lower dosages, it's probably the best I've felt on a cycle and I've had solid gains since I started. Granted, I'm just wrapping up Week 3 and this is my first time using dhb, so I'll try to remember to report back in 9 weeks, haha.
Planning to get blood work after Week 5.
As I went back to read through my notes and look at bloods it certainly makes me want to run it again lol. For weeks 1-4 I ran 750 test, 450 Dhb. I got bloods done and saw e2 at 78 so I added in mast at 300 to help w/ water weight & added in some AI. Notes for blood work here: AST/ALT, GGT, EGFR all in range. HDL 27 & LDL 127. This first chapter of the cycle my energy was amazing. I have written here that “I literally feel amazing every day. Euphoria, energy, sense of well-being all were high.”
At week 9 I dropped doses to 500 test, 300 dhb and 200 mast. I think this is where I switched sources and the PIP was pretty rough. Still being the same weight, I def see a difference in water weight and looked tighter / more vascular. Got bloods pulled again at week 12, AST/ALT were mid 40s, C-RP was high at 8.5, GGT, EGFR, BUN were all in range. HDL 31 & LDL 112.
Overall, i definitely addded some good muscle tissue on this cycle (13 weeks) The first 8 weeks I ate around 3,300 calories a day went from 253lbs to 255ish. Then the final weeks I upped calories to 3,750ish and finished the cycle around 258. My ending pics look less soft, more vascular. Leaner for sure. It definitely kicked up my body temp and I always needed a fan on me.
Definitely was one for the history books haha. Will need to revisit soon. It’s probably 1.5 times as strong as EQ but without the AI component
What was your e2 levels after you added the mast? Just added this to my cycle too but haven’t done bloods
Thank you for sharing this. Did you observe a decline in your blood levels of E2 after taking Masteron? It was 78, right? How was it following mast addition in week 9, and did the bloodwork show any difference in e2? I was wondering if it could crash E2, considering DHB already has some ai effect.
Mast def helps control e2 for me. 600 test & 300 mast puts my e2 at 45ish. Unfortunately I didn’t retest my e2 later in the cycle so I can’t say for certain but based off past experiences, the mast addition put me in a good spot.
Just saw this, thanks
Great write up ! That’s interesting there is no ai component , I’m definitely looking forward to giving it a shot
Yeah man it’ll be good! Maybe it has some AI effect but no where near the strength of EQ or primo
I am big fan of dhb , I do have a spike in liver enzymes when on it. I also experience alterations in blood sugar when in it , if my meals aren’t exactly on time I start getting light headed . They return to normal after stopping for me same with liver enzymes . You will get great pumps, noticeable body changes , strength increase , but the PIP is god awful. You get used to it after few weeks but it’s still there , only downfall I see with this drug .
I'm feeling the "god awful" level of PIP right now at the end of my 3rd week of my first DHB experience. I pin my quads and it feels like I've either got massive bruises or DOMS at all times. I didn't notice it for the first two weeks, but it's becoming restrictive fast; when I try to move around athletically - even lightly - I'm so sore that I am moving like an old man.
I'm hoping it subsides or I get used to it because the gains are great, both in terms of adding strength and improved aesthetics.
First couple shots were intense but now crippling. What’s the concentration ?
100mg/mL
I’m so torn because the gains are amazing but even getting up and down out of chairs hurts.
Listen I’m right there with you , love the compound . Some brands are great very little pip , However some brands are crippling even when you cut it with other oils to dilute .
So, I'm halfway through Week 4 of my first DHB cycle and - oddly - the PIP just suddenly disappeared. I didn't have an issue for the first 2 weeks, the third week it was so bad I could barely walk, and now it's gone. I can't really explain it scientifically, but I'm back on the DHB hype train for now! The strength gains continue to be very solid and steady and I look better aesthetically (disclaimer: I'm also running Tbol and low dose deca).
Dude I did 2 shots and I had to drop it , the first injection knotted up immediately after and was sore for no joke 7 days, and I only pinned .3 ml of DHB and diluted it with test cyp. The day after I did another shot except only .2ml and it didn’t give pip as bad but it was still noticeable. The pain just doesn’t seem worth it to me , especially if I wanted to run it at higher doses.
I would say it’s pretty amazing. Now I’ve never done tren, so I can’t compare it to that. But from my experience, it 100% gives you a noticeable transformation.
I followed mawakas post and am doing 400mg. I’ve been using two sources. Both have no pip. (I was suspect on the first source because of the “if there is no pip it’s fake comment every uses”, the second source I am not and it is smooth as butter also- side note, I kicked off my cycle with ED/5 test suspension 100mg and no longer experience pip from it) Only side effects is I’m slightly oilier. Getting some night sweats (starting to get hot outside tho too) and mild aggression increase.
Hunger is up, lifts have increased substantially (around week 6) BP is elevated but not dangerous. Vascularity is insane (sitting at 13-14% BF, 6’7) muscles look extremely dense vs watery. Blood work came back great. My cholesterol was fine. HDL was low, LDL was still in spec. AST and alt were slightly elevated. No inflammation (c-reactive protein was fine).
I really can’t complain at all about this substance. It’s just really good. I have about 6 weeks left and I love every minute of it. I will run this on every cycle Going forward due to its amazing results. (Hair loss is minimal to none).
I'm currently on week 8 of Makwa's 14-week "example cutter," minus the orals. I'm running 250 Sust, 500 DHB, and 600 Mast. So far, I'm down 11 lbs and have noticed a significant decrease in body fat. I've also noticed an increase in size in all the right places, which is abnormal for me during a cutting phase. To date, I have noted a slight increase in blood pressure, but no other noticeable sides. Typically, I'm in the 120/60-70 range, but I have been in the 130/70-80 range. No PIP to speak of up to this point.
DHB is really good when you can go up to 400mg a week. The problem is that 95% of the real DHB out there will give you some nice PIP. The other 5% that is PIP free I would be cautious because probably is not DHB.
DHB by its nature is prone to give PIP. The raw form of DHB is almost liquid and very hard to keep stable. Using irritating solvents is usually the only option for keeping it without becoming a lump inside the vial.
I can only tolerate 200 mgs a week unfortunately and when I tried 400mg the Pip was crippling
For me is not worth the pain and suffering. I do steroids to feel good not miserable. For me it felt like I was being bitten by a pissed off racoon right on the ass. Personally I get more out of injectable anadrol. But that's me.
Oddly specific. Do you have experience with pissed off raccoons? I love raccoons btw…would absolutely keep one as a pet if my wife wouldn’t leave me over it…
A relative of mine tried to corner a racoon in his garage and the little fella bit him in the inner thigh. He told me the pain was so bad he peed his pants.
-So in my pain scale for PIP a racoon bite is bad PIP.
-Crippling pain (which I had when I injected 3cc's of 500mg per cc in my ass) is a 12 gauge shot straight to the ass.
-Mild pain is not even worth comparing because we should expect pain in this game constantly.
-But no pain at all is like a well lubed quickie, in and out.
That’s good to know bro, I have some coming so I’ll definitely keep this in mind
A question for those with DHB experience, brother @anvil & et al…Is it significantly more anabolic than EQ? Is the main advantage that you can run for a shorter time and get faster results? I mean, for me, EQ needs at least 16 weeks, preferably 20-24 weeks, to shine as a compound. Would DHB be the express EQ, allowing me to run for 12 weeks, for example? Many of you already know. I've never used DHB, but I really want to. I feel like I'll think about it more in the next blast.
Yes I will run Dhb over eq any day. My results from EQ were lack luster and a joke compared to DHB
anvilIt definitely works faster but if you looking for the swapping the esters of EQ, there's bold cyp, and bold ace. I had a great time using this time and the last time I didn't really love it. This time was during a lean phase and veins were popping and I felt great. The growth phase I didn't notice it as much, but of course that is a personal experience. I have bold ace in pill form which at some point I will use, and I never tried Bold Cyp either. Definitely worth a good try though.
If you ever get around to trying boldcyp I’d love to hear how the PIP is for you. God damn that shit bit for me. Haven’t tried dhb, so can’t compare, but boldcyp at 250mg/ml felt like injecting flaming glass shards. If it wasn’t as consistent as it was across every injection at every site I would have thought I had an abscess. I tried warming it, mixing it in the barrel with my test, every day injections to minimize the amount being pushed in each site, but no matter what it would swell, turn red, and huuuurt for the better part of a week. Maybe I had some kind of allergy but EQ pins fine for me and never had any problems with other compounds using Cypionate ester.
anvilNot looking forward to that now that you stated that. I have a bottle. I don't get pip from any normal formulas, even the 500mg stuff doesn't bother me at all.
I hope to have some more insight on this in the next year or so. I've got some bold cyp showing up soon. Plan to run that with test. Probably 500/300, test/bold. I've never ran bold before and the half life of eq doesn't sound appealing to me, at least for a first time try with a compound. So I plan to get bloods done this go around while on dhb for the first time and have it to compare with bold cycle
This is mainly why im interested in DHB , I’m not able to run eq more than 1/3 of my test dose but it sounds like DHB has less of an ai effect and is way more potent than eq.
Yeah @Tizmode44 ! This makes it a very interesting compound. — What I noticed was that people who used DHB never went back to EQ. But it's like @PrimoPantani said, you're either going to love it or hate it. It seems like there's no middle ground, it's like it's a question of biological affinity with the system of the person who's doing it. We know that the anabolic response and side effects can vary from person to person.
So I’ve run a failed test:EQ cycle at a 1:1 ratio which crashed me out and so I bailed on that cycle. Then ran Dhb which was pretty intense as you have read above, and then actually went back to retry test & EQ at a 2:1 ratio which ended up being practically perfect for me.
Reflecting on those experiences, my cholesterol was perfect on 1g test, 500eq compared to my above bloods on Dhb. Now the bloods on Dhb aren’t atrocious by any means but I think for me the gains & vascularity that I got from EQ + the clean bloods make test and EQ more appealing. I think it’s person to person and based on goals but test & EQ is starting to move up the ranks to take spot number 1 on my list of cycles.
Dhb = intense
EQ = a little more laid back but healthier
Very well put, Big Red! I agree, yet it sounds like a wild compound, and I believe I'll be adding it to my next blast because DHB needs to be tested to fully understand every detail from top to bottom. Thank you for your extremely helpful review.
Anytime man!! Yeah you definitely gotta try it for sure. It’s a great alternative to tren. No mental sides, no prolactin issues & minimal sleep disruption.
Well said bro ! I just ordered some , I’m going to be throwing it in on my current recomp cycle, 750/300/100-200 test/primo/dhb. I’ll be keeping a pretty detailed log of the experience.
Sounds like a solid blast to me. Can't wait to check out your feedback. Thanks bro
Appreciate it brotha !
Currently about 4 weeks into test and dhb myself. 350 test and worked my way up to 350 dhb. Daily injections from a source no longer on here. Could give some better feedback in another month or so. But enjoying it myself so far. Was outside today after lunch and was looking full. Caught myself in car window reflection and was like damn. Veins and shoulders popping
Nice bro , let me know if you get bloodwork and notice any liver skewing ! Glad it’s working well so far
I intend to do that bloodwork, in about a month. I posted some pre Cycle bloodwork for comparison.
Nice bro , best of luck with the cycle , I hope the DHB treats you well
@bigred250
Red has a good amount of experience with this compound.
Yeah I’ll go back and take a look at my log notes for a more detailed reply but I ran I think 700 test, 400 Dhb and 200 mast for 14 weeks. It was the bees knees. I had a great experience on it. Used two top 10 sources on here one had crazy pip and the other had practically none. I remember a full vascular look but need to check and see what I was eating at the time as well
anvilBloods haven't been any worse on DHB then EQ. 0 pip on 3 places here I have tried it from, but it's a personal experience. Blood pressure might be upped a bit, but I have never taken it over 300mg per week. Nothing like tren at all, more like EQ because unless I am mistaken some of it converts into actual EQ. I did not have any anti estro effects.
Gotcha that’s good to know , I'm thinking about throwing in 100mg alongside test/primo.
Boldenone via 5α-reductase may be converted to DHB. But for that metabolite to be effective through boldenone you would have to use a ridiculous massive amount of boldenone.
anvilCopy I had it backwards. Should have looked it up first.
I've been in the same rabbit hole lately after stumbling into Makwa's old posts on it in the forums. I'm planning to run it up to 400mg here shortly to see how it works out for me. Definitely seems to be a hit or miss for most people, but when it's a hit it hits great. Biggest dice roll seems to be PIP, but that seems to be source dependent from what I've read. If it is anything like BoldCyp, though, then the PIP might be a killer. I've never had something pin as painfully as boldcyp. Had me walking like a pirate for weeks, could barely sit down my glutes were so inflamed. Even through my pants it would look like I just got ass implants or something the sites would get so swollen. Only gear I've ever thrown away.
It’s a really interesting compound, I think I’m gonna throw in just 100mg a week on top of 750/300 test/primo